Comment on New Vaccine Can Completely Reverse Autoimmune Diseases Like Multiple Sclerosis, Type 1 Diabetes, and Crohn’s Disease

Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Honestly asking, why even bring this up? What does this have to do with the topic of the post?

  All you do is start an argument and divert away from the topic that was supposed to be discussed.

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  • wantd2B1ofthestrokes@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just spiteful. And ironic if you really want to claim to care about public health

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    • ilex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Science isn’t a religion. It’s a process. In the case of the covid vaccines, that process was intentionally minimized as to bring the vaccine to market faster.

      The vaccine did have benefits. It also had complications that instead of being found out in trials were found out after release. Just because it’s called a vaccine doesn’t mean its safe.

      You can be anti-this-particular-vaccine without being anti-all-vaccines.

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      • jimbo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It also had complications that instead of being found out in trials were found out after release.

        Few of which were serious, and the ones that were serious weren’t any more common than the rare serious side effects of previous vaccines.

        Just because it’s called a vaccine doesn’t mean its safe.

        Well they were/are safe, so I don’t know what your point is.

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        By refusing COViD vaccine despite DLL evidence showing it safe and effective, you put others in danger. I agree on being spiteful: you endanger me and my family because you don’t trust science , then you don’t deserve the personal benefit of science treating your auto-immune disease

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      • Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wish I didn’t have to encounter people like you. You give medical science a bad name, and anti vaxers confidence.

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      • winterayars@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They did not skimp on the process with the Covid vaccines. Not with the big ones like Moderna or Pfizer, anyway. They accelerated the process, but they did not skip steps. They did steps in parallel.

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      • wantd2B1ofthestrokes@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I believe the COVID vaccine trials were the largest ever done, or close. And most of the “complications” were simply the same issues of “long COVID” but scaled down significantly

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    • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Just spiteful.

      Wanting to have two seperate conversations about two seperate vaccines is “spiteful”? Really?

      And ironic if you really want to claim to care about public health

      And I do care about public health, allot. For the record, I’m fully vaccinated.

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  • Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You don’t want to get a vaccine to help others + yourself, you shouldn’t be allowed to “believe in science” when it benefits you and only you.

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    • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Such a non-sequitur answer. And for the record, I’m fully vaccinated.

      Go somewhere else to talk about your favorite vaccine. Don’t derail this conversation about a completely different vaccine.

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      • Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Don’t DERAIL this conversation about a completely different vaccine.

        I was replying to a question. Please follow the context thread, or go away.

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• tinfox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  People are saying it causes 5g.

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  • hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can I get it, I want strong signal at all times.

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    • RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      6g comes out, carriers push everyone to get new 6g phones as the 5g networks get worked over. Bunch of vaxxers just walking around like "Nah, mine's fine. Why spend hundreds on a new one? 🤷" AT&T and Samsung suddenly sponsoring research to undo vaccinations and turn the frogs hetero 🤣

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You’re going to need a booster every year to continue getting good reception or more g’s

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• bioemerl@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  People should be allowed full decision over the treatments they want to get, no matter how arbitrary, stupid, or contradictory. To suggest otherwise is a horrific dystopia

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  • Zexks@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bullshit. You don’t get a new kidney and get to keep on drinking.

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    • thantik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, he’s right. They SHOULD be allowed full decision over the treatments they want to get.

      However, those decisions should not be free from the rules we as a society have put in place.

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      • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        this is honestly why I thought vaccine cards to sit at restaurants, attend concerts… These are good ideas.

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    • bioemerl@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, because kidneys are a rare and valuable thing what drinking would prevent from working

      That makes zero sense for your petty ass sense of vengeance by denying people easily manufactured treatments because they turned down a vaccine you think they should have gotten.

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      • Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That most of society thinks they should have gotten. That results in other people dying if they don’t get it.

        GTFO of here acting like your right to a fist doesn’t end where my nose begins.

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    • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do you mean liver? That’s the organ alcohol primarily harms. Kidneys are somewhat secondary.

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  • thantik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes, you do get to decide the treatments you want to get. Nobody is forcing any treatments on you. But just like freedom of speech, it doesn’t mean freedom from consequences of that speech. Too stupid and didn’t want to participate in saving your fellow human? Well, said fellow humans don’t want to participate in saving you either.

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  • richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If that decision contributes to the spread of a pandemic, they can keep they cherished decisions behind bars in a quarantined prison.

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  • jimbo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh no, the dystopia of having to get a vaccine to prevent the spread of dangerous disease to your fellow human beings. The horror.

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    • bioemerl@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The dystopia of arbitrarily punishing people with inability to get things that would literally cure their diabetes because they refused a vaccine

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  • CosmicDetour@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If there are plenty of vaccines to go around, sure.

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• winterayars@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not that i necessarily support this policy, but to the people who are acting all offended at the idea you might be cut off from future scientific advances because of you’re hurting the public good (“Consequences? For my actions?!”): You could just get the vaccine.

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• Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just make it a combination shot. Then they can hit the red button… or not!

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• Zacryon@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Unpopular? O.o

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• pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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