Comment on Framework supporting far-right racists?
priapus@piefed.social 1 day agoBut not required. If I do not morally support the developer I can instead choose to financially support individual instances, or other projects like Piefed or mbin.
My point here is that comparing this situation to using Lemmy is a bad comparison. Supporting Framework is pretty much exclusively via financial support, the same is not true for Lemmy.
Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Doesn’t seem clear cut at all after reading the whole thread. You support one thing who’s creator has questionable views but not the other. The main difference seems to be that you like one and not the other.
priapus@piefed.social 5 hours ago
What doesn’t seem clear-cut? My only point here was that using Lemmy does not directly fund the creator of it.
You’re making assumptions about me. I use Piefed, not Lemmy. I also do not believe that this situation is enough for me to not support Framework. All I’m saying here is that supporting Framework is for the most part direct financial support, while one can easily support the Lemmy as a whole, without providing financial support to the creator with questionable views.
doben@lemmy.wtf 18 hours ago
The main difference is that fascism and racism are fundamentally destructive ideologies/traits, while tankie is just a derogatory term for folks on the far left used by people that think extreme left and extreme right are the same kind if evil. It’s a display of arrogant ignorance, congratulations.
Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Many would argue tankies live by an ideology with a comparable body count to fascism.
doben@lemmy.wtf 14 hours ago
That’s all very vague. Be more explicit. Many argue many things.
What is the ideology you’re hinting at? Communism? What is the body count of communism? Where do you think you’ve got that that narrative from?
To round out the picture, and because body count seems so decisive, we should include capitalism, right — as facism, many argue, is a neccessary consequence of imperial capitalism protecting itself in crisis and it’s our current economic ideology and therefore an ongoing, systematic phenomenon? What’s the body count of capitalism?
Many would argue we currently live by an ideology with a body count of double digit millions of excess deaths annually, through poverty & hunger, healthcare inequality, workplacce deaths & diseases, environmental & climate deaths, structural violence, and of course war & imperial violence.