Ever since weed was legalized in my area, downtown has been an array of weed smells on every other street. It’s quite upsetting. Idk how it’s even possible for it to linger in open air in a way that cigarettes don’t.
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LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks agoI meant weed lol.
As for asian food, I think it’s a very well known fact that asian food has a smell that lingers and carries far more than most other cuisines commonly encountered in the english-speaking world.
Echolynx@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I don’t think it’s about lingering, I think there are just a lot more joints than cigarettes on fire at any given time.
Echolynx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It could be, but it seems to linger longer…
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yeah, it sucks
Echolynx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Apparently we do.
FishFace@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“asian food” covers billions of people from hundreds of cultures across dozens of countries. I am not convinced that reducing to it in this way is especially productive.
Some ingredients do carry more than others, but like… garlic is one of them. Or bacon. No-one should feel like they need to take special measures to prevent people from smelling perfectly ordinary food, because to do so is an unreasonable imposition on day-to-day activities. Why should I have to keep my steamed-up windows closed so that someone walking by can be protected from the scourge of cumin?
There are super-stinky foods that this doesn’t apply to, recognised even in the cultures which consume them as especially smelly and warranting special treatment, but “asian food” is way too broad to be that. And when it’s imposed by one culture on another it starts to sound discriminatory to me.
No.
That’s weird. It’s definitely more important not to disturb people with what you’re listening to. It’s also much easier to keep the volume down with earphones than it is to keep smells confined, and much more disruptive - I never found it difficult to sleep or hold a conversation or concentrate because I could smell soy sauce.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
What a weird hill to die on.
Of course if I’m cooking so much it steams up my windows (wtf are you cooking), I try to manage the smell because I should not impose a smell on my fellow man.
Do you not wear deodorant too, because it’s in your “culture”? Ew.
Most importantly I do not want others to know what I’m eating. It’s not information I choose to share because of a fundamental basic desire for privacy, for the same reason I wouldn’t want others to hear the music in listening to, videos i’m watching, or read my thoughts or feel my emotions unless I chose to share it with them in the way I choose to share it (words of deliberate communication).
If I was going out of my way to eat something unusually super stinky and weird like garlic containing foods, or asian food, especially Indian & Chinese, where e.g. a letting agent once showed me a flat that was reduced rent because it smelled like instant ramen because someone ate it all the time there, I would be mindful of the smell it generates because to me the past resident will forever be “ramen guy” and in the unlikely event we ever met, I highly doubt that’s how he wants to be known, and I certainly wouldn’t want to be known as that or for any food I eat or information I don’t deliberately share.
Yeah, so when asian food in the west is imposed upon westerners and other immigrants who are happy to integrate with western culture by immigrants who are not, it’s a-okay, but me asking for reasonable adjustments is “oppression”?
Lol what the fuck. I never thought I’d be arguing for what feels like a right-wing viewpoint, but come on, surely you can see how this is absurd? When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
FYI: A survey in the UK found most asian takeaway is consumed by right-wing voters.
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Then we can never understand each other. If you lack the fundamental desire for privacy, from which a “treat others as you’d like to be treated” idea easily follows, thinking that maybe you shouldn’t be stinking up the street so everyone knows what you’re eating at all times, then our differences are irreconcilable and I could not begin to imagine how to even communicate with you, it is simply inconceivable.
FishFace@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
lol enjoy your unseasoned boiled wheat, troll
Brits are using on average 250 cloves of garlic per year. If you genuinely think it’s weird and are not making a weird troll attempt here, I’m afraid you’re the weird one. I guess that’s weird either way.
Demanding that everyone who comes to your country either stops cooking the food they grew up eating or keeps it a secret is not reasonable, and is oppressive. When I lived in a foreign country, I didn’t stop cooking my home country’s food; indeed, I shared it with my new friends in that country and we all enjoyed the experience. (No doubt this violation of my own privacy is strange to you…)
Most people in the UK are right wing by voting intention. What’s your point with this?
Those two things are completely unconnected. Treat others as you’d like to be treated is a moral fundamental; it does not follow from a desire for privacy. A desire for privacy follows from a selfish (but entirely legitimate) desire not to suffer consequences for personal choices that don’t affect others.
I don’t want to be punched in the face, so I don’t punch other people in the face. But there are no privacy implications of being punched in the face.
If someone looks over my shoulder at what’s on my phone and sees I’m listening to Abba, that’s an intrusion into my privacy, but the person hasn’t suffered anything that I wouldn’t wish on myself.
So as I said, these are completely separate, unrelated concepts.
This is extremely far from normal. We’re social creatures.
I’m wondering if you’re autistic - it would explain an aversion to strong sensory experiences like smelling garlic, and to social interactions that are normal to most others.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Isn’t unseasoned grains boiled in water more of an asia thing, like rice?
But yet I’ve never heard a single Brit using so much garlic it stinks in the next apartment over, nor steams up their windows as you implied lol.
I did not make such a demand, I said manage any unusual smells you emit. You need to chill out, I eat my country of origin’s food too, I just make sure that if it’s smelly, like say sardines or something, I dont leave it out or make so much of it that it disturbs my neighbours.
Do you not understand the difference between friends and family - willing participants, and strangers, like random neighbours or passers-by on the street you don’t own?
Because consent is everything, the former are willing participants, the latter are not.
Why do you want random strangers to know what you ate?
Hence the analogy, it’s the same question as why would you want others to know what you’re watching by blasting video on speaker on the bus?
Yeah newsflash dumbass, I also share my country of origin’s food with my friends and family and they also love it. I’m not so sure my neighbours or random strangers would love it if I threw it in their face or made the neighborhood smell like it.
My point is that you accused me of oppression by demanding you hide your culture, a right-wing viewpoint which I did not state and do not advocate for.
I do support diversity - a left-wing viewpoint - but I also support courtesy, and in this instance the two are seemingly at odds, and I’m forced to pick and defend the courtesy.
I’ve seen people in the past assume that my dislike of some asian food is indication of right-wing beliefs. I linked the survey that suggests - statistically it is not so.
While yes, to an extent this is just a survey of popularity of takeaways generally, that explanation doesn’t account for the entire difference nor the variance between choices. If it was just a popularity of takeaways contest or general popularity of the political parties, all of the bar charts would have the same order.
It doesn’t account for the variance in order, e.g. Labour is currently second in voting intention, but on the chippy graph it is third, after Tories, and first on the pizza graph.
Idk, for me fundamentally treating others as you’d like to be treated is about the social contract of tolerance - which is about not bothering anyone for their innate characteristics, to me if you follow the line of thought then “bother” can be defined as disruption and interference on top of outright obvious discrimination, and that includes emitting uncontrolled amounts of disruptive smells on unconsenting unsuspecting others.
It is less severe than punching someone in the face, or being punched in the face, but it is not categorically different, if that makes sense.
You’ve got it the wrong way around:
If I look over your shoulder at what’s on your phone, and see you listen to Abba, I’m intruding your privacy.
I shouldn’t do this, because I don’t want for you to look over my shoulder and see that I’m listening to Electric Light Orchestra’s underrated album “Time” and looking kinda sad when “Ticket to the Moon” comes on.
If you do so accidentally, on say packed public transport, it’s okay, but we as a society should strive to eliminate this sort of overcrowding, IMO.
It’s the same as me being forced to smell your BO. I do not want it. I do not consent to it. Wear deodorant, and I will as well.
Basic stuff, frankly.
No. They are intrinsically connected, as I said.
Both are ultimately stemming from a desire to be left alone.
This is a bioessentialist broad generalisation that doesn’t hold true when you consider how many people hate places that have many people.
I’d even go as far as to say that maybe we are social creatures in a world of like 4 million humans, not 8 billion humans.
You don’t know me or know anything about me, you either misunderstood what I wrote - like you implying I’m telling you to hide your culture when I said nothing of the sort.
Or:
We have a fundamental disconnect that we cannot reconcile - like you implying that strangers and friends are even remotely comparable.
Notice how I never accused you of engaging in bad faith, being a troll or attempted to diagnose you with mental illness.
I don’t make assumptions of bad faith about random internet strangers and I’d appreciate it if you did the same, thanks.