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LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

lol enjoy your unseasoned boiled wheat, troll

Isn’t unseasoned grains boiled in water more of an asia thing, like rice?

Brits are using on average 250 cloves of garlic per year. If you genuinely think it’s weird and are not making a weird troll attempt here, I’m afraid you’re the weird one. I guess that’s weird either way.

But yet I’ve never heard a single Brit using so much garlic it stinks in the next apartment over, nor steams up their windows as you implied lol.

Demanding that everyone who comes to your country either stops cooking the food they grew up eating or keeps it a secret is not reasonable, and is oppressive.

I did not make such a demand, I said manage any unusual smells you emit. You need to chill out, I eat my country of origin’s food too, I just make sure that if it’s smelly, like say sardines or something, I dont leave it out or make so much of it that it disturbs my neighbours.

When I lived in a foreign country, I didn’t stop cooking my home country’s food; indeed, I shared it with my new friends in that country and we all enjoyed the experience. (No doubt this violation of my own privacy is strange to you…)

Do you not understand the difference between friends and family - willing participants, and strangers, like random neighbours or passers-by on the street you don’t own?

Because consent is everything, the former are willing participants, the latter are not.

Why do you want random strangers to know what you ate?

Hence the analogy, it’s the same question as why would you want others to know what you’re watching by blasting video on speaker on the bus?

Yeah newsflash dumbass, I also share my country of origin’s food with my friends and family and they also love it. I’m not so sure my neighbours or random strangers would love it if I threw it in their face or made the neighborhood smell like it.

Most people in the UK are right wing by voting intention. What’s your point with this?

My point is that you accused me of oppression by demanding you hide your culture, a right-wing viewpoint which I did not state and do not advocate for.

I do support diversity - a left-wing viewpoint - but I also support courtesy, and in this instance the two are seemingly at odds, and I’m forced to pick and defend the courtesy.

I’ve seen people in the past assume that my dislike of some asian food is indication of right-wing beliefs. I linked the survey that suggests - statistically it is not so.

While yes, to an extent this is just a survey of popularity of takeaways generally, that explanation doesn’t account for the entire difference nor the variance between choices. If it was just a popularity of takeaways contest or general popularity of the political parties, all of the bar charts would have the same order.

It doesn’t account for the variance in order, e.g. Labour is currently second in voting intention, but on the chippy graph it is third, after Tories, and first on the pizza graph.

Those two things are completely unconnected. Treat others as you’d like to be treated is a moral fundamental; it does not follow from a desire for privacy. A desire for privacy follows from a selfish (but entirely legitimate) desire not to suffer consequences for personal choices that don’t affect others.

Idk, for me fundamentally treating others as you’d like to be treated is about the social contract of tolerance - which is about not bothering anyone for their innate characteristics, to me if you follow the line of thought then “bother” can be defined as disruption and interference on top of outright obvious discrimination, and that includes emitting uncontrolled amounts of disruptive smells on unconsenting unsuspecting others.

It is less severe than punching someone in the face, or being punched in the face, but it is not categorically different, if that makes sense.

someone looks over my shoulder at what’s on my phone and sees I’m listening to Abba, that’s an intrusion into my privacy, but the person hasn’t suffered anything that I wouldn’t wish on myself.

You’ve got it the wrong way around:

If I look over your shoulder at what’s on your phone, and see you listen to Abba, I’m intruding your privacy.

I shouldn’t do this, because I don’t want for you to look over my shoulder and see that I’m listening to Electric Light Orchestra’s underrated album “Time” and looking kinda sad when “Ticket to the Moon” comes on.

If you do so accidentally, on say packed public transport, it’s okay, but we as a society should strive to eliminate this sort of overcrowding, IMO.

It’s the same as me being forced to smell your BO. I do not want it. I do not consent to it. Wear deodorant, and I will as well.

Basic stuff, frankly.

So as I said, these are completely separate, unrelated concepts.

No. They are intrinsically connected, as I said.

Both are ultimately stemming from a desire to be left alone.

This is extremely far from normal. We’re social creatures.

This is a bioessentialist broad generalisation that doesn’t hold true when you consider how many people hate places that have many people.

I’d even go as far as to say that maybe we are social creatures in a world of like 4 million humans, not 8 billion humans.

I’m wondering if you’re autistic - it would explain an aversion to strong sensory experiences like smelling garlic, and to social interactions that are normal to most others.

You don’t know me or know anything about me, you either misunderstood what I wrote - like you implying I’m telling you to hide your culture when I said nothing of the sort.

Or:

We have a fundamental disconnect that we cannot reconcile - like you implying that strangers and friends are even remotely comparable.

Notice how I never accused you of engaging in bad faith, being a troll or attempted to diagnose you with mental illness.

I don’t make assumptions of bad faith about random internet strangers and I’d appreciate it if you did the same, thanks.

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