As soon as I pay for it it becomes my phone, not Apple’s.
And since it’s just a computer I should be allowed to put whatever software I want on it.
Because it’s mine.
Comment on Apple steps up war of words with European regulators
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
but EU regulators counter that it unfairly shuts out rivals.
I kinda have to say “so?”. Its apples phone, apples software, etc etc etc. Why should they allow others onto their store? If they want to, great. But why should they before forced to? Its not like its a monopoly, anyone else is free to make their own phone and software at any time. I dont really get this idea that apple has to let other people into its house, or that that if they did it would make things better.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Farnsworth@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
This, except I won’t buy an apple device (unless forced to: in Germany an i-bad is required in many high schools, yes you need to pay for it in full with your own money)
ray@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
It stops being Apple’s phone once they sell it.
teft@piefed.social 20 hours ago
It’s not about what apple wants. It’s about consumers having the freedom to do whatever the fuck they want with their device. If i buy a chair and want to add a 5th leg Ikea has no say in the matter so why should apple have a say in my app choices?
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
But the consumer does have a choice. They have the choice not to buy apple. Right? Its not like they hide this fact. You know what you are buying into.
“I get to do whatever I want” not according to the Ts&Cs you agreed to when you turned the phone on. Again, you knew what you were getting into. So why are trying to force someone else to do something, when its perfectly reasonable that you just dont buy the thing that doesnt suit your needs?
Farnsworth@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
no I don’t have that choice, see my other comment
Olap@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Have you tried to have a smart phone outside of Apple or Android? They are clearly operating as a duopoly at this stage, they need tackled
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Yes, the issue wasnt apple or android. The issue was support for various app makers. I LOVED windows phone.
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 20 hours ago
no, we don’t. Android is becoming the same thing. So intervention is needed
nuggie_ss@lemmings.world 12 hours ago
Regulations like these exist to protect people who can’t protect themselves.
The average apple-user is too stupid to understand or appreciate the value of an open ecosystem, so it’s up to those who know better to fight on their behalf.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
lol Yeah, dont talk utter shit. Apple “just works”. Thats what most people want. They dont want an open platform, full of viruses, malware, and every other fucking thing that makes running windows a pain in the arse. The utter state of you “I know better than all the simpletons”. Could you be any more up your own smelly arse?
Ulrich@feddit.org 19 hours ago
Honestly don’t care what they do with their store. But it’s super fucked to exert 100% control of all software on the device.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 19 hours ago
I 100% agree. I’m so sick of Apple being attacked in the European market. Look, I love open source software but I don’t want my phone running a bunch of shit that couldn’t even make into the App Store.
hellequin67@lemmy.zip 19 hours ago
then don’t install anything outside of their walled garden but don’t force it on everyone just because you don’t want it.
I moved away from apple a long time ago as I wanted to use my phone my way. there’s many reasons why some apps don’t make it into Google play/Apple store, doesn’t mean they’re bad. ad free you tube apps, streaming apps, terminal apps just to mention a few.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 19 hours ago
You moved away from Apple so I’m not really understanding your lingering problem with Apple.
I moved away from Nissan to Audi a few years ago, I don’t go around criticizing Nissan cars now that I’ve switched. Why would I?
hellequin67@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
I may not use apple any more but there are plenty of others who do who would like the opportunity to install what they want.
Also apples logic is a little flawed, if I buy a mac I can install what I want, why should a phone or tablet be different.
nuggie_ss@lemmings.world 12 hours ago
You moved away from Apple so I’m not really understanding your lingering problem with Apple.
Expecting logic from apple users is an effort in futility.
I always need to keep this in mind when interacting with them.
kayazere@feddit.nl 18 hours ago
What if there were only two car companies?
nuggie_ss@lemmings.world 12 hours ago
but I don’t want my phone running a bunch of shit that couldn’t even make into the App Store.
Great! These regulations won’t affect you!
It’s literally nothing but a net-gain for those who want to use or make software without apple’s approval.
How can you be such a child that you want to take that power away from them simply because you don’t want it?
just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Monopolies are bad, educate yourself before talking about something you have no clue about.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Its not a monopoly, moron. Or is xbox a monopoly as well? What about playstation? and Switch? Are they all monopolies as well? Jesus…