Yeah, no. American Oligarchs did social media. Youtube, Twitter, facebook, instagram all American. First they did it for money now they are doing it openly for power. Cambridge Analytica, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant all of these are made by Americans to poison the world. And they are going to do much worse with AI. Americans destroyed the world.
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DicJacobus@lemmy.world â¨15⊠â¨hours⊠agoThe current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world â¨14⊠â¨hours⊠ago
krunklom@lemmy.zip â¨14⊠â¨hours⊠ago
You understand the difference between a medium and the content on that medium right?
Thatâs a rhetorical question since you clearly donât.
UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com â¨12⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Corporate control over an algorithm that decides who is served what content is a platform-agnostic tool of power over society. Weâre seeing that danger manifest in old and new ways every single day. That lever of power allows whomever owns that particular medium to push whatever content they like. That is the entire motivation behind and purpose of the Fediverse and other decentralization efforts.
Zuck and muskrat separate populations, push propaganda and influence discussions at an unprecedented level. The control a single corporation, a single authoritarian point of power has over such vast swathes of population dwarfs the propagandic power of Goebbles and Stalin by a couple orders of magnitude.
hark@lemmy.world â¨9⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Do you? Control over the medium is far more powerful than being a mere user of that medium.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨11⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Cambridge Analytica,
Thatâs British
anti-vax, Andrew Wakefield, the guy who started the antivax movement, is British
anti-trans, The US passed laws protecting trans people and many Americans are literally trans or allies. Russia however, is extremely anti-trans.
anti-abortion, See the above point
anti-immigrant See the above point, also, American is a country of immigrants and refugees, âMelting Pot,â America was one of the first countries to encourage and mobilize massive movements of immigrants, which sheltered them from oppressive governments looking to hurt them. This includes people fleeing from Russia and their wars.
missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de â¨10⊠â¨hours⊠ago
The US passed laws protecting trans people and many Americans are literally trans or allies. Russia however, is extremely anti-trans.
ahh, to live in 2014 again.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Itâs still here in 2025. America isnât a bunch of fascist MAGAs, even if we are being taken over.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works â¨8⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Yea naw, my parents watch WeChat short videos and read their BS articles and they constantly regurgitate anti-Democrat rhetorics, and whenever someone gets shot by police, they fucking cheer, the homeless people, anyone with a âmental illnessâ, even George Floyd, they think trials are waste of time and resources, they want the system to just skip the trial and want the suspects dead.
Canât even blame âAmericansâ for this, the CCP has full control of the content, they clearly arenât censoring it.
WeChat is literally poisoning the Chinese Overseas Diaspora. Its another tentacle of the CCPâs power. Thereâs no doubt they also infect social media platforms like facebook, xitter, etcâŚThey sow chaos, and untimately, whatever the CCP does damages the repututation of anyone who is ethnic Chinese or looks ethnic Chinese. They are infaming Sinophobia by being the worse representatives of my people. And all the abuse that I have endured from my parents is from this toxic culture, fuck this âfilial pietyâ BS, fuck conservatism. Iâve been helping out in my parents bussiness, and they still say Iâm useless. I really wanna go back in time and shoot confucious for inventing the stupid ass religion, fuck your ĺé , its literally parental indoctrination to control their children. Evil ass shit. Fuck confucious.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz â¨7⊠â¨hours⊠ago
I assumed the US was disseminating right-wing propaganda among the chinese diaspora, given that they do it with every other one.
What does China even get out of turning your parents into right-wing psychos? America gets a community that is happy to work with them against their home country.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip â¨14⊠â¨hours⊠ago
No other country has done as much? Weâre gonna just ignore how much support Israel has thrown behind Trump? Netanyahu was meeting and communicating with him during the 2024 election cycle, all while ignoring the Biden administration! Snubbing a sitting president for a prospective candidate!
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨5⊠â¨hours⊠ago
The trick is, every-time it looks like someone other than Russia is behind it, you just have to argue that Russia is secretly being them!
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨12⊠â¨hours⊠ago
We need a national online forum
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨5⊠â¨hours⊠ago
Yes, the solution to Americaâs problems is more centralized government control of information, to make sure that those evil ruskies canât corrupt our pure
bodily fluidsinternet.LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world â¨5⊠â¨hours⊠ago
I think you need a nap or something, because what you said isnât anything I wrote.
First, the existence of the post office doesnât stop you from using UPS or Fedex. Likewise, a government forum wouldnât stop you from using other forums or social. And the government already got involved in socials like TikTok (deal currently being made), Truth Social, Twitter, and Meta - but because they arenât explicitly OWNED by the government, we donât have the same legal protections and cannot sue for rights that would normally be protected like free speech.
Just like how USPS canât open packages without a warrant, but UPS and Fedex can just open whatever. The government gives you special protections that you can enforce via lawsuits.
The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists, because it would be much harder to make sock puppets and bots. FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy, itâs fascism and fascist control of info. We should each get a say, and what we say should stand on merit, not money. We deserve real communication so we can work on issues.
I already explained I love the Russian people, but not their fascist government.
Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨5⊠â¨hours⊠ago
I think you need a nap or something
Starting with an insult, as all bad faith arguers do.
because what you said isnât anything I wrote.
It is what they call âparaphrasingâ
The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists
So who would be moderating this government forum?
FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy
It literally is though, certainly under capitalism, at least: propaganda is how you convince people to vote for the policies you want/represent.
itâs fascism and fascist control of info.
Yeah, no one other than fascists have ever engaged in propagandaâŚ
Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit
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BrainInABox@lemmy.ml â¨7⊠â¨hours⊠ago
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