As the other person said he ends up saying he still doesn’t like it but there is still a challenge. The reason Charlie says it’s reaffirmed in Mathew about the gays is because everything the student brings up is the old testament and Jesus already died to erase those sins. Bringing up Leviticus trying to make a point doesn’t work if you believe in the new testament.
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Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
So what is the response? I feel like these clips are great. But if he makes a great point after, isn’t it setting a trap where you share this and the response is his rebuttal which could be good or bad
Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Good thing Charles set the trap himself by saying morality is objective and unchanging. That must either mean God commanded things that were not moral (which is against their worldview), or that burning women, killing disobedient children, taking people as slaves for life, and stoning people for working on the Sabbath are morally permissible.
It’s usually impossible for them to concede God did anything wrong, so they have to justify numerous atrocities.
Railcar8095@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Not a Christian, but a Muslim once share the argument that God doesn’t make mistakes and corrects, nor he changes his mind. He sets the correct rules for that moment, and any change is because it’s the right thing to do and it’s the right moment to do so. We mere humans can’t understand enough, so that’s the godly way to guide us.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
He sets the correct rules for that moment
So morals are not objective and unchanging, rather they change depending on how God feels at any particular moment. You can’t actually ground any sort of moral worldview with that belief because you can justify literally anything as long as you say God said so.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
They rationalize their way out of everything. The bible is infallible except when they don’t like what it says.
hperrin@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
His response, and I’m not joking, when all of his arguments against gay marriage were defeated in that debate, was, “well, I still don’t like it.”
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Yea I just watched the whole thing. One of my favorite things I’ve heard recently is people arguing if Charlie was a good debater or not. One person just said “did he ever once change his mind?” There’s one a decade. Charlie was not debating. What pisses me off though is how little material there is for times like this to repost. Sure there’s content but everybody on the left checks out and doesn’t bother to archive anything worthwhile.