Comment on Do you think conservative feel the same need to burn it all down as everyone else felt when trump won again?

• onslaught545@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But conservatives have always been regressive in the US.

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  • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Conservatives have always been regressive, period. Their entire philosophy emerged from the “excesses” of the French Revolution. The forward “movement” (if you want to call it that) was from the “divine right of kings” to the “divine right of lords (chosen by the market)”.

    To quote the infinitely quotable (Wilhout, from the top rope…with a fucking blog comment):

    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

    I understand the desire to take the positive aspects of a word, apply them to your political stance, and pretend that you’re part of a movement. But it isn’t true. It reminds me of when lefties (in often an USA centric thread) describe themselves as “left libertarians” all this crap does is confuse people and make you sound like a pedant.

    If you think this is what conservative means, you’re basically just politically homeless…and have been since you started calling yourself that.

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    • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      that’s what your politics are, you’re basically just politically homeless…and have been since you started calling yourself that.

      This, at least, is correct.

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      • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Welcome to the club!

        I’m there. I vote Democratic but there’s basically no representation for my views to be found.

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You really don’t have to accept it in order for it to be our current reality.

  What is the point of labels like this if they don’t signal what it is you believe, relatively accurately?

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  • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What is the point of labels like this if they don’t signal what it is you believe, relatively accurately?

    This is exactly why it’s necessary to push back on those who would twist it to mean something else.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I think you’re about 80 years too late for that. At least.

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      • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        All battles are hopeless when no one fights them.

        You’re not wrong, though. But even thirty years would be enough to make a change, perhaps… or maybe it seems that way to me because that’s when I started paying attention.

        Friggen Tea Party bullshit was when it really started sliding downhill fast, IMO.

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