Comment on Spotify Add Lossless Audio(24-bit / 44.1 kHz FLAC) for Premium Subscribers

IronKrill@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• Damarus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I might be out of the loop. Who wants this exactly? There is no audible benefit from lossless audio. I rip all my music to lossless files but that’s archival. There’s nothing to archive with streaming services.

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  • hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I want this, and although there isn’t always a perceptible difference in audio quality, there sometimes can be. It depends on the content, and I’d rather sometimes stream audio at an excessively high bitrate than always lose the high–end definition that I could have enjoyed where it exists.

    All my life I’ve been getting into disagreements with people who believe that because they can’t tell the difference between A and B, I must not be able to either. I find this immensely frustrating.

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    • mateofeo85@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I agree. I can definitely hear a difference, mostly in the rhythm section and low end.

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      • Damarus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You can hear a difference between 320 kbps mp3/aac/vorbis and lossless? Can you prove that with an ABX test?

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    • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      At that point where it matters, I feel like I should be buying the music from the artist, not streaming. My latest favorite band, Mad Routine, gives you the WAV masters when you buy their albums, and they are meticulous about sound; those lossless tracks actually sound better, even with Bluetooth.

      However, I think few bands are actually putting in the effort to have beautifully crafted lossless tracks. Also, I have no way of knowing if Spotify is merely increasing the bitrate but using the same lossy source file, which is what I suspect is probably the case. After all, why share valuable goods when you could pretend and throw out a few buzzwords, instead?

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    • Damarus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sounds like you just want it because it is possible. If that’s the case, I’m fine with that. There is however no perceptible difference in sound, ABX tests showed that many times.

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  • Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Over bluetooth through a car stereo, no you won’t hear a difference. But over a cable through a decent pair of headphones, there is a difference. Even more with a good DAC, amp, and speakers.

    The problem with audio quality is that one bad step in the chain from bits to eardrums will nerf the sound quality. So, if you upgrade one step you have to upgrade all of the other steps too before you will reap any benefits.

    As a musician and audio engineer, I would love to say that you should experience a richer music listening experience. On the other hand… fucking rent.

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    • Damarus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You can read up on my setup on the other comments. As an Audio Engineer you should know better or come with proofs.

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      • Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You do you, friend. I’m just sharing my experience, not trying prove anything.

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  • thejml@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I would if they didn’t lose me a long time ago. On bluetooth headphones it doesnt make a huge difference. But I used to stream to my Home Theater setup and Spotify sounded horrible compared to the source material. I could also tell a difference with a quality headphone amp and my 250ohm DT770 pros.

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    • Gerudo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      100% agree, Spotify streaming to my soundsystem always sounded like ass. I thought it was something I set up wrong. I then tried Tidal and it was night and day difference.

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  • mateofeo85@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    People say that, but I definitely hear a difference. Mainly in the bass and lower end. You can’t get lossless with Bluetooth. Or airplay. I also use good headphones and a great sound system.

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  • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Based on the vibes of every internet comment field, literally everyone and their mother wants to stream lossless.

    You’re right about the audible benefits however

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  • mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The small community of audiophile

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    • Damarus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Which is filled to the brim with snake oil advertisers who want to separate gullible people from their money.

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  • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Most people wouldn’t be able to notice the difference even with the best possible equipment, but there is a difference.

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    • Damarus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Of course there technically is a difference, you can easily see it with any tool that can render a spectrogram. Humans cannot hear this difference though, so there is no point in streaming the extra data.

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      • DampSquid@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I mean this is just wrong.

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