Comment on Google admits the open web is in ‘rapid decline’
BanMe@lemmy.world 1 month agoCame out of government-funded research actually. Back when we could still achieve scientific feats on behalf of our country.
Comment on Google admits the open web is in ‘rapid decline’
BanMe@lemmy.world 1 month agoCame out of government-funded research actually. Back when we could still achieve scientific feats on behalf of our country.
Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
It was private at that time. My point is that it spread so quickly to millions of people worldwide because of capitalists—specifically the telecom companies and ISPs—stepping in. Without them, the internet could never have developed on such a scale.
SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The telecom companies got paid by the government to do it, they just as easily could have paid themselves to do it but we as a society are allergic to the idea of taking money out of the hands of poor billionaires and their potential profits
Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
That doesn’t undermine my argument that it was ultimately because of the capitalists that the internet spread in the first place.
SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It does undermine your argument though, because you are saying that it only spread because of capitalists. I’m telling you it spread because of government funding and capitalists were just the medium by which the funding was used. The capitalist part is replaceable and unnecessary.
Blemgo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Could you explain how it doesn’t undermine your argument?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
No it wasn’t
First connections were between universities. Tim Berners-Lee at CERN then came up with web pages to easier share information
There was nothing capitalist about the internet back then
Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
We all know how it came to be, you didn’t get the point but it’s okay.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I did get the point
I’m telling you that your point is wrong
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Talk about a grey area…
secretboston.co/…/weed-the-first-online-sale-ever…
despicable@lemmy.today 1 month ago
And how would you know without the internet being developed under a different system at the time?
Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
That’s not an argument. I don’t need to speculate on hypotheticals when reality already proves the point.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 month ago
The internet would not have existed without government investment. Back when the idea of the internet was being floated around in the early 1960s the US government did contact every major telecom company in the country snd all flat out refused meaning the government had to publically foot the bill (and the work).
No, capitalists would never, ever have invented the internet.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
You are speculating on hypotheticals though, since no one can know for certain how things would have unfolded in a different world.
I’m not even going to argue that capitalism doesn’t get you some positive outcomes for certain people.