Comment on Google admits the open web is in ‘rapid decline’

• Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It was private at that time. My point is that it spread so quickly to millions of people worldwide because of capitalists—specifically the telecom companies and ISPs—stepping in. Without them, the internet could never have developed on such a scale.

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  • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The telecom companies got paid by the government to do it, they just as easily could have paid themselves to do it but we as a society are allergic to the idea of taking money out of the hands of poor billionaires and their potential profits

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    • Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That doesn’t undermine my argument that it was ultimately because of the capitalists that the internet spread in the first place.

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      • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It does undermine your argument though, because you are saying that it only spread because of capitalists. I’m telling you it spread because of government funding and capitalists were just the medium by which the funding was used. The capitalist part is replaceable and unnecessary.

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      • Blemgo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Could you explain how it doesn’t undermine your argument?

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No it wasn’t

    First connections were between universities. Tim Berners-Lee at CERN then came up with web pages to easier share information

    There was nothing capitalist about the internet back then

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    • Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      We all know how it came to be, you didn’t get the point but it’s okay.

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      • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I did get the point

        I’m telling you that your point is wrong

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    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Talk about a grey area…

      secretboston.co/…/weed-the-first-online-sale-ever…

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  • despicable@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And how would you know without the internet being developed under a different system at the time?

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    • Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s not an argument. I don’t need to speculate on hypotheticals when reality already proves the point.

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      • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The internet would not have existed without government investment. Back when the idea of the internet was being floated around in the early 1960s the US government did contact every major telecom company in the country snd all flat out refused meaning the government had to publically foot the bill (and the work).

        No, capitalists would never, ever have invented the internet.

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      • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You are speculating on hypotheticals though, since no one can know for certain how things would have unfolded in a different world.

        I’m not even going to argue that capitalism doesn’t get you some positive outcomes for certain people.

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