Comment on Google admits the open web is in ‘rapid decline’

HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Late stage capitalism ftw

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  • FantasmaNaCasca@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Late stage cancer is still cancer.

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    • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yup, it wouldn’t have gotten to late stage if it was treated before it went metastatic

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      • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe just a liittle cancer until we get smartphones and then we can nip it in the bud and ooops why is everyone mad oh no why are all the animals dying I just wanted to scroll for gods sake

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• Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You got internet because of capitalists as well.

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  • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Came out of government-funded research actually. Back when we could still achieve scientific feats on behalf of our country.

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    • Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was private at that time. My point is that it spread so quickly to millions of people worldwide because of capitalists—specifically the telecom companies and ISPs—stepping in. Without them, the internet could never have developed on such a scale.

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      • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The telecom companies got paid by the government to do it, they just as easily could have paid themselves to do it but we as a society are allergic to the idea of taking money out of the hands of poor billionaires and their potential profits

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      • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No it wasn’t

        First connections were between universities. Tim Berners-Lee at CERN then came up with web pages to easier share information

        There was nothing capitalist about the internet back then

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      • despicable@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And how would you know without the internet being developed under a different system at the time?

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  • MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    TIL DARPANet wasn’t a government funded project… \s

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  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We got internet thanks to scientists and engineers. No amount of capitalists, politicians, managers or business people can create an internet. They say ‘here’s some money to make stuff’ and that’s the limit of their involvement.

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    • Hikki88@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      already clarified here

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      • BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You could make the argument that nothing can be achieved without being able to dedicate the time required. That was the miracle of the agricultural revolution, we could do something with our time other than gather food. If you said ‘we got the internet thanks to farmers’ that would be indisputable, everything flowed from that. I don’t see why an internet couldn’t emerge in other economic contexts because internet technology depends on physics and those laws transcend any and all economic systems. We already know this because almost every jurisdiction has the internet.

        The influence of capitalism on the internet has been a mixed bag. e-commerce: good. App ecosystem: ranging from good to addiction health crisis. Walled gardens and enshitification: bad. Misinformation and radicalisation of political groups: dire, potentially an existential threat.

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