Comment on LGBTQ+ Americans consider move to Canada to escape Trump: ‘I’m afraid of living here’

rozodru@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• don@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “It sucks down there” is a hell of a euphemism for “the systematic and targeted eradication of LGBT+ community by American conservatives.”

  I’m also gonna guess that the “consider” part of the headline probably includes the whole “planning and figuring out if and where we can go to in Canada, and where it’s not viable.”

  “Shit’s expensive up here” doesn’t really stand up to “we’re afraid for our very lives down here”.

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• Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Less than $1500 USD/month?? That sounds amazing. We live in an expensive city for my spouse’s work, and we pay more like $2600 CAD for an apartment that isn’t particularly high quality. And it’s only this cheap because we’ve been here a long time, other units nearby are hundreds (USD) more.

  I get what you’re saying, but having a bad time economically isn’t really comparable to the shit going on with LGBT (especially the T) rights in the US right now. Shit’s hard economically here too, only here we’re also wondering what rights we’ll wake up with tomorrow. For some people being homeless in Toronto actually is the better choice.

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  • BurntWits@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Not defending either side but just to add context, most fields pay way more in the states than in Canada. I wouldn’t be surprised if cost of living relative to average income was vastly worse off up here. My wife and I considered moving to Newfoundland (far east island in Canada) since that’s where all my family live and housing is way way way cheaper but our paycheques would be slashed so hard it wouldn’t make sense. Same sort of situation. Canada in general pays far less.

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    • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Canada has a higher minimum wage than the US federal minimum, although some states have a higher minimum. I know American EMTs who are making what would be minimum wage in Canada.

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      • BurntWits@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Good luck getting a minimum wage job though. If you aren’t in a speciality field (and even then it’s still very hard), no one here can get a job right now. At least where I live anyway. Any time a grocery store, liquor store, etc has a job posting there’s 200+ people lineups for interviews for 1-2 positions. It’s insane. And no, I don’t live in Toronto, Vancouver, or Montreal.

        When I meet someone new and ask what they do for a living, there’s a good 30-40% chance they’re between jobs. Then for people in high demand jobs, a lot of them consider working down south because it pays so much more. A neighbour of mine recently moved to a border town so he could work in the states because it literally paid double.

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Americans pay more for food, and they pay the same rents, PLUS health insurance premiums or debt, education also 3-5X more.

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• 13igTyme@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Every single cost of living website says Canada is cheaper to live in. Depending on the metrics they use that ranges from slightly cheaper to much cheaper.

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• sabin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If they manage to find work outside of Vancouver/the GTA/Ottawa I say go for it. We have loads of developing cities that could benefit from immigration.

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  • rozodru@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    that's a massive IF.

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• helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  would rather live under a bridge then in a camp or prison

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  • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Have you considered joining a resistance and fighting for your rights?

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