Comment on ISO 26300

• lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  yeah but that’s fairly recent.

  when i was in school in the late 90s it was all microsoft all the time. we had courses specifically on Microsoft^TM^ Word^TM^. that sort of indoctrination isn’t visible in the workplace until the people going through it are old enough to work.

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  • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I graduated in 2011, and same. My high school had a pretty janky mix of mostly Dell Inspiron towers, and mostly Windows XP but with a handful of Windows 2000 and ME machines that for some reason (prolly hardware too old) escaped their upgrades. We went through impressively comprehensive MS Office training and even Computer Tech classes (essentially an intro to an intro to computer science where we learned data concepts and built a PC).

    A few years later, 90% of those machines had been scrapped, the mandatory courses were all gone and the kids all had cheap crappy Chromebooks. Now any courses are electives and the students are expected to just magically know how to use the software they’re required to use. Consequently, any class involving use of a computer, even if it’s just word processing for English essays and such has the teacher having to show the students how to use the stuff. Otherwise there are problems. It’s a sorry state of affairs and a lot more kids are getting left behind when it comes to tech.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      i was a ta in uni in 2011-2015 and while ipad babies weren’t a thing yet we did definitely have to explain to some people what files were. as far as i understand from my contacts at the university it it’s way worse now.

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      • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ohhh, I can sign off on this.

        The amount of 20 year old university students that do not understand how to save a file to a specific location on their computer and then retrieve that file later has skyrocketed the last five years.

        This is very obviously a consequence of them only ever having worked through tablet- or phone-type interfaces, where the file system is completely hidden to the user. I teach these people to program, and their eyes gloss over when I ask them where they put the data file they need to parse for the assignment. Once they understand the question they’ll typically open the file explorer, click on “recent files”, and ask me why their python script won’t open it, when the files are right there next to each other in “recent files”.

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  • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    To be fair, that’s about all there was… Corels (?) WordPerfect was ass, for sure. Office 97 was freaking amazing

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    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I used Applix on Unix / Linux and it was fine.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      sure, but computers are so much more than office suites.

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      • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t believe you

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  K-12 use Google, University use Microsoft

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• Legom7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  A couple years ago I interned for computer support at an elementary school in NYC. Most students had Chromebooks and Gsuite, K-2nd grade had iPads. Teachers had Lenovo laptops with Windows 10 and Office365.

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  • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    …and until very recently, the discount for m365 was pretty neat, I gather.

    Huh, that’s interesting. I’m not aware of what my kids teachers have had to use for themselves (I think the highschool might be MS-based?), but the “client side” has always been in Gsuite for over a decade

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