youtube is probably gearing the algorithim for other content that draws in more views or revenue.
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TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Folks here are missing the point blaming LTT for the drop. This has been a sudden drop, too sudden to be fatigue or audience tastes changing.
Also I can see the same on my own channel. About 2 weeks ago views suddenly dropped to a third of the usual views. And even high performing videos have had trouble getting views since. Even videos with a high impression percentage are getting lower than average views.
The same wsd also reported by Second Wind (old Zero Punctuation) and their experience is the same: way too sudden drop to be anything else except YouTube adjusting their algorithm.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 months ago
TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Not impossible. The best revenue for Google would be if they could ai generate all the content themselves.
scarabic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If a change in the algorithm hurts, it may be a sign that the algorithm had been helping previously. No one questions the algorithm when viewership grows, but it’s largely to blame for the good and the bad.
TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
True, but a platform where your income is dependent on an ever changing algorithm is not something a business can handle. Changes like that will drive away major channels and make them start to look for alternatives.
scarabic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean you just described every website in the world, and their relationship with Google search engine traffic. Yes an algorithm can inject uncertainty into a business, but if one is entirely and exclusively dependent on one algorithm, is it really a business?
TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Very true. And it’s very worrying that so much of global online business is literally dependent of Googles good will.
JayGray91@piefed.social 6 months ago
The same wsd also reported by Second Wind (old Zero Punctuation) and their experience is the same: way too sudden drop to be anything else except YouTube adjusting their algorithm.
In their video, Yahtzee said it could be related to Restricted Mode on youtube suddenly turns on by itself. Or at least that's their hypothesis, since they checked that if that mode is on, a lot of their videos vanished from their channel.
TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They’re wrong, my channel has under 4% viewers in the up to 18 year segment, this effect is way bigger than if I lost then completely. Also my channel features no swearing or inappropriate content so, it should not affect it at all if this was the case.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 6 months ago
Tierzoos theory is because formats that were good for the past years (8-10 min videos) are less popular now with the advent of shorts. And people are watching yt on their TVs now.
Demographics are also changing. Wish there were more actual data. Other than the very end result which is views down over many channels all at once.
TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That also wouldn’t have a drastic immediate effect. On the long term this is likely to eat some views of long form content.
Visstix@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s not about what your viewers are, it’s about what youtube now automatically hides by default. They show it in the video.
TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes, but even if they hid everything I have from teens and suspended teens, the drop would be way less. And that’s why I think they are wrong about the reason for the drop.
Klear@quokk.au 6 months ago
DarkviperAU also mentioned it.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I wonder what they’re going to prioritize now
ronigami@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Nazi salutes and brotein supplements
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I hope anything but LTT, a shit clickbait channel that steals things to auction off
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I‘ve noticed the algorithm drizzles a good portion of smaller creators on my front page in recent months and that part is growing. I ala talking about videos with jusz a few thousand or few hundred views that make up roughly 10-15 percent or so.
I think Youtube is diversifying exposure so you don‘t see the same faces you‘ve seen the past 15 years as often and new channels get a chance to grow. I am guessing Youtube doesn‘t want to be too dependent on the same huge channels anymore either.
Of course that means huge creators are calling to the pitch forks and torches because they lose revenue but why should I care? Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than a guy with their phone in their garage workshop or a college student in their dorms.
There is a lot wrong with Youtube but I couldn‘t care less about huge channels being forced to slim down or try harder.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 months ago
mr beast has always been shady asf, thats why hes desperate as in the type of content he puts out, eventhough he has huge a base and his shitty food company.
clif@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve been getting recommendations for videos with 2 to 10 views. Noticed it about three months ago.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Same. I kinda like it.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 6 months ago
I'm noticing a lot more ai generated videos myself. Or at least they look like it. Its kinda slop.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Noticed those as well.
Usually the side bar recommends the usual bunch or related content but then there is this totally random video of some small channel with 10 maybe <1000 views doing a let’s play or some random content which is completely unrelated to the content I watching at the moment.
TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
AI slop most likely. Well, to be serious, I think the drop is due to them trying to fight AI slop and miserably failing.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 months ago
yes, ive seen an increase in AI slop + propaganda too, and yt also is allow ISRAEL to make pro-IDF propaganda to flood the site now.
cardfire@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Thanks for the analysis. I’ve got to say. We on Lemmy can be vicious.
TooManyGames@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, it’s easy to bark at influencer we don’t like.
cardfire@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I think his org has consistently done its best and I still tune in across the channels. I know that I couldn’t do better with matched resources, without experience and a lot more considerations.
Listening to everyone hate on a whole media group puzzles me a bit.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 months ago
LTT has done bad things and never apologized. For example he copied a gamersnexus script and never acknowledged it.
WhirlpoolBrewer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ll echo that I have felt an algorithm change. I watch a lot of leather crafting videos and a lot of Adam Savage videos. In the past week I’ve been getting Adam Savage working on leather videos and I’ve been thrilled to discover these. As someone who’s been watching both Adam Savage and leather crafting videos for months or maybe years, I should have already seen these, but somehow missed these until this past week. Now YouTube shows me video after video of Adam Savage working on leather, which I love.