Comment on French agency says the iPhone 12 emits too much radiation, tells Apple to withdraw it

AccurstDemon@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• huginn@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Microwaves. It’s microwaves.

  Phones are slightly above FM radio and slightly below microwaves in terms of wavelength.

  They’re a non-ionizing radiation emitter.

  The radiation emitted by phones ain’t gonna hurt ya.

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  • umbraroze@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That's right! However, remember that bananas have potassium-40 in it, which is radioactive. Not much, though. So be very very mildly careful around bananaphones! /old joke

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    • isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Back in the early 00s there was this wave of “phones give you cancer” panic and my friends father made them put on this stupid sticker on the back of their phone to “stop the radiation”. Anyways it was stupid and your comment reminded me of it xD

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      • Shard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You take that back!

        I had a sticker that had flashing LEDs powered solely on the radiation coming from the phone. It was awesome.

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      • Wisely@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • Kobrah@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        My grandad still only uses his phone on loud speaker because of this

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    • db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ring ring ring ring ring

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Great, now I have to go listen to the fucking song. Thanks.

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    • cloud@lazysoci.al ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also remember that plants have been around before humans and that we evolved to resist natural radiations. We haven’t evolved yet to be around devices that produces more radiations than the limit agreed by scientists

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Radioactive bananas is a relatively new thing resulting from all the nuclear bomb testing that went on from the 40s in to the 90s.

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  • gaael@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I seem to remember it was not a ionization issue but something with local temperatures increases around the ear when you were using it without an earset.

    Anyway, Apples knows what the norms are, decided not to care, gets caught and has to retire a phone, nothing exceptional here.

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    • eee@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      3.8 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.

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    • marmarama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I doubt they’d have to retire the phone - digital radio power levels are normally pretty easy to change using firmware. Which also means it’s pretty easy to change, intentionally or unintentionally, in a later OS version.

      Perhaps Apple chose to cheat to improve reception after mandatory testing was complete and the phone was available to buy. Perhaps Apple didn’t retest with later OS versions and it was unintentional. We will probably never know.

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    • bob_wiley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They could have changed things through updates which exacerbated the issue and made the modem emit more.

        I have no clue if that is why but that would be my bet.

        I’m kind of surprised they would have been able to release the device and ship it to customers with that issue in the first place.

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  • cloud@lazysoci.al ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can’t you read? The article says the EU has a limit of 4 watts per kilogram and the device produces more than that. Scientists agreed on that limit.

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  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How is it 2023, when everybody uses microwave radios for communication constantly, and there are still people that don’t understand the absolute basics, like the difference between radio/light radiation and ionising radiation? And how important transmit power is to how dangerous or not a radio wave is?

    They do teach this stuff in schools still, right?

    It boggles my mind. It’s not some complex difficult topic, it’s like not knowing how electricity works, or how your body works. This is basic child level knowledge that everybody interacts with every single day, so it behoves them to understand it at least at an introductory level.

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  • AccurstDemon@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah that’s what I thought… non-ionizing radiation fear, once again.

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    • huginn@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I had a neighbor in Paris who would knock on our door and tell us to turn off the wi-fi because he was allergic.

      To wifi.

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      • Krompus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        en.wikipedia.org/…/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivi…

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  • TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is likely mostly true, but there is evidence brain tumor rates went up when handheld cell phones came into widespread use.

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    • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Detection of brain tumour also went up, due to increased capacity of MRIs/CT scans.

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    • TheFonz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also more marvel movies came out. It’s interesting how often we have to repeat the correlation/causation joke and people still struggle with it.

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• kabe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  To be fair, it’s not completely made-up. There is a body of evidence that suggests that even non-ionizing EM radiation may have so-called “biological effects” in humans.

  Organizations like the EH Trust have been banging the “cellphones cause infertility and cancer” drum for year, and cites numerous studies on their website.

  Of course, much of this research is of questionable relevance to real-world use cases involving actual phones and actual humans as opposed to, say, a bunch of rats being blasted with low-power microwaves in a lab, but it exists nonetheless.

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  • huginn@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Environmental Health Trust is a single issue organization founded to specifically claim that radio waves are dangerous.

    They are alarmists bereft of credible arguments and should be treated as such.

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    • kabe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Certainly, but the existence of this research is why countries like France are taking this precautionary approach.

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      • huginn@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There is research that exists suggesting that the Nazis are currently plotting their return from a moon base.

        France should take the precautionary approach of nuking the dark side of the moon.

        Equally valid.

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    • cloud@lazysoci.al ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Meanwhile apple and chinese factories have 0 interests in shadowing researches that could put in danger their biggest source of income

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  • fadhl3y@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    EHTrust are mad as a box of frogs. They claim that phones cause cancer, which is something that all major cancer research charities dispute. Nothing they say can be taken seriously.

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• MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I call BS on you understanding what radiation is…

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• ubermeisters@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Are you one of those people that doesn’t believe in “science”, or are you having kind of a dumb day?

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  • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are you?

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