What about poop?
Are animal products vegan
no
remon@ani.social 7 months ago
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of … animals …
a forest can be exploited or a water source can be exploited. the definition of exploitation is not dependent on harm, nor sentience, nor consent. veganism seems to end all animal exploitation.
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Off the wall question: does that make exploitation of people incompatible with veganism, even with their consent? If so, can vegans own companies or even shares in publicly traded ones?
remon@ani.social 7 months ago
So can I eat the poop and still be vegan or what?
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
no
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 months ago
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Even breastmilk from parent to child? If not, is veganism a moral position? If so, is it immoral to be a human baby?
Not trying to throw stones here, just trying to clarify for the purpose of interpretation. I’m probably splitting hairs here, but it’s interesting to know where the line in the sand is. Obviously, the biggest opportunities are reducing industrial dairy and meat, which are definitely not consensual.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Me personally? None at all, and I shouldn’t have a say in it either. Other people? I have no idea. It still floors me that enough people object to public breastfeeding for it to be raised as an issue at all. The idea that potentially seeing a breast is more offensive (or offensive at all) than increasing the difficulty of raising a child is a bizarre and unconscionable one in my mind.
Agreed, but dear lord, I hope that’s never happened.
Agreed.
AmidFuror@fedia.io 7 months ago
Can we say any woman can consent to breastfeeding her child if she lives in a patriarchy?