Comment on what are the grievances with the "male loneliness epidemic"?

• the_elder@midwest.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I reject your opinion. Men shouldn’t be dictating women’s bodies and women shouldn’t be dismissing men’s feelings. Two wrongs, etc etc, I shouldn’t have to explain this to an adult.

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  • Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Agreed, but as long as countries are ran by old white men, it’ll never change.

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    • the_elder@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Agreed.

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    • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Germanys longest chancler was a woman, Merkel. The EU is lead by a woman The head of the UK and Commonwealth was a woman and lets not forget PM Thatcher or Ms Salad Truss Italys PM is a woman, so is Denmarks and latvias Germanys parliament president is a woman The leader of europes biggest fascist partys in italy, france and germany are all woman.

      What gender one is doesnt matter. Its the policies. Though yes woman get the short end of the stick by old peoples preference of leadership.

      Also why bring the colour of the skin into play? For europe alone: guess what ofc its mostly going to be “white” people running their nations. Same in sub saharan africa its all black people. And guess what japan is run by japanese.

      Though i am guessing you are american and therefor segregation by race runs deep in your mind since childhood.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      brb going to use this as my defense for being an asshole to women. It’s expected of me.

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      • yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You’re cleared to grab 'em by the pussy, chief.

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• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “MEN IN THE PAST DID BAD, SO ALL MEN FOREVER GUILTY”

  What a well reasoned argument.

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  • yarr@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s original sin, just by gender. I think people underestimate the harm in painting all men with the same brush. Once the conversation morphs from “I hate this thing some males do” and changes into “I HATE MEN” you can’t have a productive conversation.

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    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Its the classic negative feedback loop.

      All you hear about is bad people, doing bad things, because normal, sane, respectful, law abiding people don’t make news because who is going to make headlines like “NORMAL PERSON RESPECTS OPINION AND DOESNT HAVE A TANTRUM OVER BEING DISAGREED WITH”

      So people with low critical thinking skills and an aversion to regular thinking just leap to “ALL X ARE BAD, NO EXCEPTIONS”

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    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      people who think that all men are underdeveloped cretin sex-monsters. they don’t acknowledge that they are people/individuals.

      only women get that status in their minds. Increasingly, as a man, i find it harder and harder to find people of any gender/sex who don’t want to lecture me about my maleness and how evil it is. Shit’s weird. fewer and fewer people care to see me as a person.

      especially on the dating market. holy moly… the horrible hate so many people have towards men there is wild.

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  • Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Current men are bad.

    Fixed that for you.

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    • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Generalisation of a such large group of people. Love it.

      What would you say if i say “black people are bad”? Because there are also a lot of bad black people out there

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      • yarr@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you were to say “black people are bad” then the rebuttal typically becomes “due to established power structures, white men can’t be oppressed, therefore I can say what I want about them”.

        I think it’s hard to have a reasoned discussion where you say “all men do X” because for every X, there’s probably a bunch of exceptions. There is a great amount of variance in male behavior.

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    • nomy@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I am currently a men, am I bad?

      Are you a men? Are you bad because of it?

      If not, by virtue of being a not-men are you good?

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• Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And that gives them a higher position?

  Taking your argumentation into another context but keeping the same intention: europeans had colonialised africa for over 100 years, means they cant critisise the africans nations politics?

  “X did z to y so y can talk freely about matters that affect only X but x not about y”

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