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Sickday@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Time to move to nebula? :)
Nebula is a shithole, just have a glance at their privacy policy.
Floatplane would be ideal but I think he burned that bridge.
PeerTube is probably his best bet.
I don't want to see his channel deleted but I'm also VERY interested in what would take place in the aftermath...
Nebula is a shithole, just have a glance at their privacy policy.
It looks pretty run of the mill to me?
Because youtube was so much better in that regard?
Might sell your data in the future is a hell of a lot better than currently selling the shit out of your data. Nebula is a side grade in terms of privacy, but an upgrade in terms of creators not getting their shit deleted for no good reason.
I'm so fucking sick and tired of everyone saying "WELL EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT TOO!" as if that's any sort of defense. The world is fucked. You do you but I'm gonna do whatever I can not to contribute to it.
but seems it isn’t completed yet
Just checked the contributor's page, the crawled privacy policy being referenced is stated to be 4 months out of date, but the policy on Nebula's website hasn't been changed since Aug 31 2023, so I think TOSDR might be a little bugged, and just doesn't have all the current policy's points available for contributors to tag. The current privacy policy is much more lengthy to cover local state privacy regulations, the scope of what they now offer, etc.
Still, it's all pretty boilerplate, and nothing about it is really out of the ordinary or super harmful. Extremely basic attribution might be used if you click onto Nebula from an ad, and they might share a non-identifying hashed ID with that company. They'll collect aggregate statistics to determine the impact of marketing campaigns, they sometimes email you, they collect data on your device that most webservers would by default in logs. All very standard.
If they update any part of the policy about how they collect/use/share your data, they'll notify you,
They even explicitly say to not provide them with info on your race/politics/religion/health/biometrics/genetics/criminality or union membership. You are given an explicit right to delete your account regardless of local privacy laws, and they give you a single email to contact specifically regarding any requests related to the privacy policy.
None of this is crazy, and I have no clue why artyom would call it a "shithole" based on that.
I feel like this site needs more attention.
Maybe it not being in legalese just means more people understand it? This is a pretty acceptable privacy policy relative to most of the other ones you will have already agreed to in your life.
Yes, that's the problem.
I guess perspective here depends on your anchoring point. I'm anchoring mostly on the existing platform (YouTube), and Nebula's policy here looks better (subjectively much better) than what runs as normal in big tech. If your anchor is your local PeerTube instance with a privacy policy that wasn't written by lawyers, I can see how you'd not be a fan.
However beyond being in legalese I'm not sure what part of it you find so bad as to describe it as a shithole. Even compared to e.g., lemmy.world's privacy policy Nebula's looks "good enough" to me. They collect slightly more device information than I wish they did and are more open to having/using advertising partners than I had expected (from what I know of the service as someone who has never actually used it) but that's like.. pretty tame compared what most of the big platforms have.
Elaborate? Genuinely asking… what is your key takeaways for “it’s a shit hole”?
Pretty much "we collect as much data as we can and sell it to data brokers/advertising companies to be used to target you for advertising."
How about Floatplane /s
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Or better yet PeerTube.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Every substantial youtube channel should be hosting and backing up to a self-hosted, owned, peertube.
Evono@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Issue is such channels need giant amounts of storage for this.
Linus tech Tips showed his multiple upgrades over the years it’s quite crazy what they need on storage space.
Auth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
LTT storage is excessive. He stores all his footage in full quality instead of just storing his final edited videos in a compressed format. Plus if you’re a youtuber with millions of subscribers you can afford to pay for a few TB of storage to hold and serve your videos. Its not that expensive.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Not just storage, but bandwidth.
Damage@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Storage? Traffic is the real cost
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
As someone who worked for years in video transcoding, archiving, streaming, and content management in general: there are absolutely ways to do this efficiently in a self hosted context. You could absolutely build a system that fits your bespoke needs in all of these categories.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Hosting a peertube instance would be almost nothing I comparison to this. It’d just be a duplicate of all uploaded videos at worst, which he’s storing many times that amount of raw footage anyway. They probably wouldn’t even notice the overhead.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
With many, many servers, otherwise things would go down fast on each new video release. And each server having a fuckton of bandwidth, too. That’s not free.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
its fine if its first and foremost a backup, and not a public platform. then you don’t need the bandwidth. then they can open it up when google deleted their channel. they still need to figure out the capacity issues, but at least the content was not lost.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
its fine if its first and foremost a backup, and not a public platform. then you don’t need the bandwidth. then they can open it up when google deleted their channel. they still need to figure out the capacity issues, but at least the content was not lost.
loonsun@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I don’t know if I’m stupid or not but I tried going to peertube and I couldn’t for the life of my understand what I was looking at. It just seemed like a vague soup of instances with no continuity or ability to know what I was looking at. Maybe I accessed it wrong but I didn’t fully get it.
biofaust@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
These days I am looking at their video on their channel on Rumble while working. I think they are achieving financial and political pressure in the most wholesome way possible.
That said, I don’t think I am going to click on anything else on Rumble, as it is all Tucker Calson, bitcoin and other shit like that. I don’t see any future in it; it has achieved Dailymotion status in no time.