Comment on The average age of Disney princesses is 505y.

• j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What is creepy about it? The entire story is really about Alice discovering rules and how she likes them so much. That is very much the world of an 8 year old. Not to mention all of the fanciful characters and tropes that were dreamed up.

  There are many academic critiques and studies of the work. It is also central to Open AI’s QKV layers model alignment training. The story is the primary catalyst for creative randomness in terms of internal model thinking in both LLMs and embedding models used in image diffusion. For instance, all of the mechanisms that Alice used to become bigger and smaller are present in diffusion AI models with the caveat that no real person place or thing is present in the prompt. One does not need to bring up the detailed context of the story if one prompts the element with good specificity. A far easier method to play with is to prompt the queen of hearts or Alice as a character in an image using just a foundational base model. It should be quite clear how these images are a bit different in many ways. Those differences are not random and they are persistent across all models. Literary nonsense is the actual randomness that shows up in background objects and clothing in images. Prompting against the abstraction of genre is far more effective than attempting to describe your own details in the prompt with specificity.

  In literature in general, Carroll’s work is the holotype for a genre. Analysing the work speaks to the human experience on many levels. The work has long been appreciated by all ages. So I am a bit baffled about what you find creepy about age in any context such as this. Like what kind of assumptions do you possibly feel grounded in here?

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think you need to go outside bro

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    • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think you need to pick up a book. Maybe get out of the sun. It can be harmful you know, bro

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  • smh@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t understand what you wrote. Please explain like I’ve not take a literature class since high school. (I read, but mostly for fun or computer tech information, which is also for fun.)

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    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      its pro AI jibberish, probably written with AI tools

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      • smh@slrpnk.net ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What I got out of it (including the clarification) was “AI ties to Alice in some way also Alice in Wonderland is deeper than you think” and the ties to AI were where I felt it was either nonsense or not written for the audience.

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    • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There is more to the story of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland than just a children’s story. There are several podcasts and blog posts on this that are easy to find. The book is public domain and on Gutenberg.org. There are also several audio book reads of the original text on YT. It is considered the holotype or foremost representative book in the literary nonsense genre, (the book ends with all of wonderland being a dream).

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      • smh@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Thank you. I follow a tad better.

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• bizarroland@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m gonna need a source for that 'cause, like, they weren’t really concerned about creepiness back in the 60s from what I can tell.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s the joke.

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