Yes, hyperreal genders do exist, but are not stable outside lab conditions.
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k4gie@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Do the two tails left of M and right of F mean there are males more male than cis males, and similarly with females?
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Mastema@infosec.pub 1 hour ago
I would submit David Bowie as a counter example.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 hours ago
It means that traditionally understood cis male can still have some female characteristics (no facial hair, higher pitched voice, bad at driving) but some males will have none.
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 hour ago
Yeah, I was kidding.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Well, clearly. If you define a male characteristic as something that’s more common in men than in women and vice-versa, then e.g. being tall would be a “male characteristic”.
Height isn’t a binary thing with men being exactly Xcm tall and women exactly Ycm, so there’s people who have more of said male characteristic and people who have less. And you also have women who have more of this characteristic and some men (e.g. there are some women that are taller than some men).
The same can be done for every characteristic that’s associated with a gender. Genitals are on a spectrum (large clitoris vs micropenis), fat distribution is on a spectrum (e.g. there are men with breasts and women without), body hair is on a spectrum, hormone distribution is on a spectrum and so on and so on.
If you take a lot of characteristics at once it becomes clear in most cases whether the person you are dealing with is a man or a woman (though there are some where that’s more difficult or impossible), but if you take just a single characteristic (e.g. height) it’s impossible to say whether the person you are dealing with is definitively a man or a woman.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 9 hours ago
I don’t think it’s an accepted term anymore, but you reminded me that they used to call the triple X chromosome syndrome by the term Super-Female-Syndrome.
Probably not what the author intended though.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
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I am a horrible person, but the only thing I can think of reading this is a small-circuit wrestling event where all participants have this set of chromosomes, billed as ‘The Triple X Throwdown’, for the title of Supreme Female.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
yes.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Yeah but they decay into sometjing indistinguishable from a cis person in like five seconds outside of extremely exotic lab conditions, so it’s more accurate to say they’re possible than “they exist”.
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
the peaks do not designate “cis”, you can be cis and fall anywhere on the chart - being cis is about the sex you were arbitrarily assigned at birth.
And when doctors change assignments, it’s really unclear whether you’re cis or not if you transition - e.g. a baby assigned female at birth who is then weeks later assigned male at birth later transitions to be a girl, she was originally assigned female at birth - is she trans or cis?