First time? UK going full auth mode and inspiring a vicious uprising and rebellion is one of the oldest traditions in their culture.
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possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
What is happening in the UK?
You guys went from 0 to authoritarian like very quickly
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wolf314159@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
0? Hardly. For a simple pop-culture counterpoint, V for Vendetta was written as an indictment of the UK’s slide into fascism. It was published in 1982. Fascism doesn’t happen overnight, it’s a slow boil erosion of rights and democracy that works in the shadows of government over decades to dissolve checks and balances from the inside and within the law.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
They were warned that Labour was fascist but like everywhere else in the wold, just ignored it or didn’t care, hell the UK nazi party (aka Reform) is polling very well and dragging Labour and Tory further right.
Twig@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
The Labour Party is nowhere near fascist. Authoritarian? Yes.
JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The UK has been arresting people for saying offensive things for a long time. It’s just that most of the victims were on the right, and most people on the left were cheering for it. Now that the laws are being used against their side and their causes, they’re sad and outraged. It’s a tale as old as democracy: people don’t care until it materially affects them. Every time we give up rights or give governments more power, no matter how justified we think the cause today, those powers will eventually be turned against us.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
Count Dankula only got an 800 pound fine and no jail time. He also wasn’t raided, and I doubt they took his fingerprints and DNA either. These people are spending a days in jail for no fucking reason.
The dog doing a Nazi salute is stupid. Really stupid. But what is happening here is that they are discussing something serious. If count Dankula was arrested for speaking about some new law or whatever it would be an entirely different case.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Arrests for online posts isn’t new here.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
UK has a fascist party disguised as a labour party running the show, that is what happened. Starmer is justing warming Nigel’s seat, that is his whole purpose in this shit show and he knows that.
yet_another_commie@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Always has been
Zombie@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
(New) New Labour got back in power.
Labour are meant to be the left wing workers party. Old school Labour are socialists that brought in such things as the NHS (free healthcare) and The Open University (non-elitist university education open to anybody) in the mid-1900s.
New Labour first came into power in 1997 and left in 2010, they got back in last year (2024). They are not socialist by any means. They pretend at times to be socialist because of the image and reputation of Labour but in reality they’re capitalists. These are the people that introduced privatisation into the NHS (so you can only get healthcare for certain things if you are rich enough) and started the Iraq War 2 with Bush. They have always had an authoritarian streak but the socialists still within the party generally managed to hold them off. They had plans for mass surveillance and mandatory ID cards, but never managed to implement it by the time they lost the 2010 election.
Now they’re back, and the socialist elements of the party have been shunned ot kicked out, so the authoritarians can near do as they wish now.
In one year they have:
I’ve been sitting on the toilet too long writing this now so that’ll do, but here’s some more reading if you wish:
tribunemag.co.uk/…/new-labours-authoritarianism-i…
scotsman.com/…/palestine-action-ban-reveals-labou…
jacobin.com/…/britain-authoritarianism-keir-starm…
thenational.scot/…/24697965.former-mp-quits-labou…
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Fuck me, it’s got to be pretty miserable being British at the moment?
It’s not like the Tories were doing anything to better their lives, but hold crap Labour are definitely on world record pace speed-running Fascism any%.
Zombie@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Even more miserable being Scottish knowing we could have escaped all this in 2014.
…wikipedia.org/…/2014_Scottish_independence_refer…
Our devolved parliament is more left wing than Westminster but it has limited powers so our sanctuary is minimal.
There’s also the times where Westminster has ruled on things that should be devolved and when it has overruled Scotland.
youtu.be/29-LRuuqFT0
urandom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
To think the message against independence was something like “keeping the union strong”, while at the same time the message for brexit was “better alone” or some shit like that.
stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Aye, but what kin ya dae?
Slovene@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
🤣
I bet your legs have fallen asleep.
stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Probably not a coincidence New Labour rose around the same time as the US Democrats Third Way neoliberals, whodid much of the same in regards to gutting socialists from the party.
Twig@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
They didn’t cut winter fuel payments. They just made it means tested, as these things should be.