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• taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Due to circumstances, I’ve had to emulate more on phones. You very much can figure out the file structure so long at its Android (and 9 times out of 10 shit is just in the download folder). I swear my wife’s iPhone is a little black box, though.

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  • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    IIRC modern iOS ships with a file manager. The black box used to be even worse!

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      iPhone bitch here

      Yeah we absolutely have a file manager!

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      • Ziglin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And where might I find the files saved by an application?

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      IIRC modern iOS ships with a file manager. The black box used to be even worse!

      you mean to tell me the patient zero of enshittification was fucking trash? No, really??

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      The whole fucking movement happened the second they rolled out the fashion adverts for fucking ipods that required itunes to scatter your files into a zillion folders for no fucking reason and people went “yeah, I don’t give a shit about owning my device or data”

      Then came the walled garden, then the shitty apps, then the perpetual surveilance machines.

      Now I literally cannot avoid having a phone since work , citizenship and banking two factor authentications are mandatory and on my phone. Fuck sake.

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      • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Walled garden i remember from the 90s.

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• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do yourself a favor and install a FOSS file manager system, if you can / its not too much trouble on your particular phone.

  Basicslly every phone OS goes out of their way to make their particular file browsing app batcrap overcomplicated and unintuitive if you want to do anything other than exactly what they want you do do.

  Which is usually sync everything on your phone to their cloud and your account.

  I am running a sort of jerry rigged, half baked, de goodled android, … basically I have torn out, replaced or disabled everything I can without root, but left in play store and core g services so i can actually still use it for common apps… done the best I can to lock down everything to its bare minimim privelege set, never use a big ole shared account for anything, everything is a separate, old school email account.

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• infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You’re in a virtualized container that only exposes some directories, also those directories are mostly hidden from you, also within this container you generally don’t have any permissions to them, and also every application completely obfuscates it’s folder access via some file access API.

  It’s crazy to me how hard consumers got fucked right from the start on phone software and how normalized we are to it.

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  • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s mainly done for security reasons, but yes it is not the most friendly way of doing things.

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I agree with you, though… it’s definitely good for the general population as a whole. Tech savvy peeps should have the option to…be, but most folks should not have root access.

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    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If it was primarily done for security then it was a massive fucking failure. But I maintain that security was merely a secondary concern.

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      • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What reason do you think? Also what makes you think it was a failure? Seems pretty successful to me.

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• user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I haven’t got a fucking clue how to do it with phones.

  In a certain way, probably me neither. I use ls, df, md5sum, cp, mv, rsync, tar, gzip, gpg, vim, touch and mkdir in Termux (terminal emulator for Android). For example, say I am replacing MP3 for FLAC. I really like to keep the timestamps of when I added the specific song, but I can’t find any better way than touch -r oldfile.mp3 newfile.flac

  But I also use FX File explorer for certain tasks, as it thankfully keeps timestamps. I absolutely hate how moving photos in Google Photos updates the modified timestamp to the date of when the file was moved. Why?
  And I also have an ancient version of ES File explorer, version 4.0.2.3. Before it enshittified.

  But I am not sure whatever that is installable from within the device, or it’s old enough to require adb install --bypass-low-target-sdk-block app.apk like some other old apps I use.

  Anyway, I have no idea what’s going on with iPhones and files, or whether that’s a non-existent concept there.

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• outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  With android the default file thing is integrated with cloud. The version of files that was local only like a real operating system is in there somewhere but not something a user can access on demand. So it’s literally not ‘in here somewhere’ anymore.

  I had to find a third party tool on f.droid.

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