I mean, media has depicted this sort of relationship for pawbably as long as sci-fi has been around? Think like the Star Trek: Original Series episode “What Are Little Girls Made Of?” that depicted sex robots ~60yrs ago. This was always coming, it’s just technology might finally be getting there in a rudimentary way.
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AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
I heard about this in the radio the other day. People pay a monthly fee for an AI that becomes your “digital partner”.
The reasoning behind, according to them, is that the AI is less dangerous than a human partner because they can’t cheat, can’t abuse you…
And I can’t but wonder where did we took the wrong turn to end up here. Because while I can understand that people can go through some traumatic shit tha, would made them wary of the opposite sex, considering a machine your sentimental partner can only lead to some extremely fucked up scenarios.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 hours ago
RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 16 hours ago
“Pawbably”. Adorable.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
Thank you! :3
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
While I agree with your point of view… Do we really trust the present AI providers, in the present economic system, to not pull some bullshit that ends in extremely fucked up scenarios?
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
Oh, absolutely not. That didn’t seem to be the crux of your argument though.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
You are right, my main comment didn’t include this part. When I was talking to other users I developed the argument a bit more and I realized that my first comment didn’t convey my argument fully. While I was writing the first comment, it made sense in my head, but the reason why I considered it an awfully bad idea was not clear.
chocrates@piefed.world 17 hours ago
People are lonely and dating sucks. Humans provided a similar one sided relationship service as well. (Sugar babies come to mind)
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Yes, yes. And yes.
But
Do you think openAI or Google, or X or whatever billionaire behind the AI involved in these “relationships” cares even minimally about the mental well-being of these people?
The problem is not just the dating an AI thing, but who is managing these AIs.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 15 hours ago
Do you think openAI or Google, or X or whatever billionaire behind the AI involved in these “relationships” cares even minimally about the mental well-being of these people?
No, but I wager neither does anyone else, or they wouldn’t be dating a datacenter.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
I’m not really sure these people fully understand what they are doing or they wouldn’t be doing it at all.
chocrates@piefed.world 16 hours ago
Oh totally agree. This is a corporation problem.
SippyCup@feddit.nl 16 hours ago
It happens multiple times in Star Trek. They kind of breeze by it but Riker was so infatuated with his holodeck girlfriend when he was captured by Romulans they thought she was a real person.
Thing is, it never seemed unbelievable in Star Trek. Just, a kinda weird thing that people will do.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I’d rather choose a bear than choose an AI…
ideonek@piefed.social 17 hours ago
Where did we take the wrong turn?
look around at our patriarchy-driven gender regime
Are you serious?fullsquare@awful.systems 17 hours ago
it also requires zero effort on their part
Valmond@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Like a normal relationship if you’re beautiful enough …
ramble81@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
can’t cheat, can’t abuse you
That is a dangerous assumption. The ones controlling the models can definitely manipulate a person through some minor tweaks which would definitely count as abuse. And it’s it more polygamous since they’re probably all using the same model? Not like each one has their own unique model
Horse@lemmygrad.ml 16 hours ago
The reasoning behind, according to them, is that the AI is less dangerous than a human partner because they can’t cheat, can’t abuse you…
it also can’t love you, rendering the entire exercise pointless
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
We have engaged in gender centric tribalism for the last decades. Feminism, counter-movements, topped with a bunch of social media induced dissociation and social isolation.
Now women are scared of men, men are scared of women, and everyone is lonely and miserable.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
What the fuck. You’re taking one anecdote and generalizing it to the whole human race, and what’s more, you’re attributing it to some sort of “novel” gender differentiation, like that shit hasn’t existed since the times we all huddled in caves.
Touch some grass.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Oh i’m sorry, I forgot to specify that I’m not talking as an absolute, and that I am refererring to the western/capitalist cultural hemisphere and not uncontacted tribes or Islamic societies. Didn’t think of the average lemmy nitpicker deliberately interpreting any possible uncertainties in communication in the worst possible way.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Wasn’t there a guy who married his 3DS dating game girlfriend a while back? I’m not sure this is exactly a new phenomenon.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
It was more of an oddity. Right now, the numbers are not just “some random guy” but something in much higher numbers.
Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
Not to be that person but… source? I don’t follow this topic much, but I imagine its actually a very small amount of peolle being amplified into a way bigger issue than it actually is.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
I’m trying to find an English source as the one I can offer right now is in Spanish. If i find another one, I’ll post it, meanwhile, this is my source: cadenaser.com/…/es-rentable-y-da-mucho-miedo-la-r…
diaphanous@feddit.org 17 hours ago
I think it’s also a symptom of our society overvaluing romantic relationships and the nuclear family, at the expense of friends, other family, and general community. When you combine that with the traumatic experiences some have in romantic relationships, they have nowhere to turn to for emotional connection and support.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 17 hours ago
Back in pre-agriculture days, humans would sit around every night by the fire and interact with the rest of the tribe. That's what we spent 99% of human history doing. Farming isolated us from the tribe and put every family in their own house. Then the Industrial Age gave the family distractions like newspapers, radios, and movies. Currently we've got a phone to distract us all the time.
diaphanous@feddit.org 17 hours ago
Don’t forget the glorious idea of private property!
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 17 hours ago
People always had private property.
MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Exactly - loading all your need for companionship, relationships and love onto a single person and relationship (and type of relationship) is guaranteed to cause disappointment- it’s too much for person. I’ve been happily married for years, and key to that is other friends, companions and family.