Comment on Battlefield 6 cheats day 1 of early access. Depite kernel level anti cheat, forced secure boot TPM 2.0

• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  1. You can run more than one OS with secure boot enabled. It’s just a pain in the ass.
  2. you can run unsigned code on a secure boot enabled system.
  3. its 2025, what the fuck do you have that can’t secure boot by now?
  4. THIS is your winning argument.

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  • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    1. Yeah, well the secure boot keys needed for Linux distributions expire in September (tomshardware.com/…/microsoft-signing-key-required…), so that seems like a sustainable solution, sure buddy.
    2. What’s your income? What region of the world do you live in and what hardware is available to you? I’m still using an am4 platform PC as my daily driver because I can’t burn money. One of my buddies has an AM3 PC. Many people use modified surplus office PCs (especially in developing nations like South America or SEA), which don’t have secure boot as an option. Check your privilege, and maybe donate some of your spare hardware to those who need it, if you want to make this “a non issue” for everyone.
    3. Yeah. I own my hardware, I configure my software. I gut Windows like a fish and keep it on a leash for these games, and use Linux for my work and for the games that respect the ecosystem.

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      1. New keys have already been released and you can always just create and enroll your own damn keys. This is sensationalist nonsense.
      2. “Check my privilege” over secure boot? Calm down, Karen.
      3. I think gaming on PC is going to get interesting in the coming decade as Microsoft kicks third parties out of the kernel (thanks crowdstrike!) and more and more people just stop putting up with windows. Enterprise in the US is hooked but everyone else? Na, they are gonna drop it.

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      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        On the list thing, it seems that adding numbers with periods in a list seems to auto configure it to ascending numbers. That’s why I used (1) (3) (4). Weird, but I guess that’s the work around.

        Enrolling your keys doesn’t work btw, because battlefield checks which keys you enroll, only accepting the default MS keys. Also on the hardware front, it is a big problem for gamers on a sub-300 USD budget these days - the best deals are on legacy hardware or surplus office equipment, mainly AM3-AM4 era.

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  • Alaik@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t think he needs a winning argument. I think EA needs to justify this kernel level AC, not the other way around.

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m agreeing with point 4.

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can run more than one OS with secure boot enabled. It’s just a pain in the ass.

    Weird, for me it was just flicking the switch in UEFI and now Grub and trough it Windows 10 and Fedora 43 boot in Secure Boot.

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• 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Im fairly certain any legacy hardware that doesn’t have secure boot as an option is going to struggle loading BF6 regardless.

  The first two points are not related to secure boot at all.

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  • brezel@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    you think loading my own kernel modules is not related to secure boot? i guess you don't work in IT then.

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    • Miaou@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Most people who work IT don’t even know what a kernel is, tbf

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      • tpyo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I recently had an rfid scanner immediately rma-d back that had just been returned to us. The new issue was caused by a setting and not by a defect. I asked our IT/help desk if it WAS a setting that could be changed

        “I don’t know. I get the thing, I check these settings, I check those settings, that’s all I know”

        😑😑😑

        So me and another person are out of our equipment for another couple weeks while the scanner is sent back for “repairs” and the repair people will go “😑 tap tap tap idiots”

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    • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It doesn’t matter which kernel modules are used, as long as you have signed those changes before rebooting.

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  • pathief@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can’t install most linux distributions with secure boot enabled.

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is outdated information. Linux has supported secure boot for quite a while now.

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      • _cryptagion@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And Microsoft is shutting out most third parties in the near future because of Crowdstrike, so Linux likely won't be supporting Secure Boot in the future, even if someone did want to enable it for some odd reason.

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      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Do you have any advice for someone that dual boots SteamOS and Windows 10 on a Steam Deck?

        I’ve heard online that since SteamOS manually signs keys or something, that if any changes happen to the kernel that later need to be updated by SteamOS, I’d need to re-sign the keys or whatever. Idk I’m not well versed in any of this

        I’ve heard it’s as easy as downloading the M$ keys to enable Secure Boot, but I also don’t want to brick my Deck.

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