Comment on Meta deletes Al Jazeera presenter’s profile after show criticising Israel

andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Cyberwitch_7493@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And not all Jewish people support Israel! I have to assume many understand what’s going on and side with Palestine.

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  • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What does “side with Palestine” mean? I side with the innocent people unjustly targeted in both Israel and Palestine, Israel has tolerated completely unjust treatment of Palestinians as well as done it as a state. But, groups like HAMAS also fire missiles at innocent civilians. Not to mention the many nations that have tried to unprovoked invade Israel. I’m not saying the Israeli government is innocent, it’s not, but it’s more complicated than just “siding with Palestine” being the right answer.

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    • jarfil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the many nations that have tried to unprovoked invade Israel

      If we go far back in the history of the land… that list goes all the way to the paleolithic, and includes Israel itself. Some call it the “promised land”, “holy land”, and stuff like that, but in practice it looks more like the “cursed land”.

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      • DoomBot5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If we go less far back, you’ll find the point where the Roman’s conquered the lands, kicked out all the Jews and renamed it to Palestina to spite them.

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    • Cyberwitch_7493@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I just meant siding with the people being forced out of their homes by Israel and placed under heavy surveillance while under constant threat of attack. I can’t blame them for wanting to fight back.

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      • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah I agree, I side with the innocent people, not necessarily all the semi-state entities in Palestine.

        I can’t blame them for wanting to fight back.

        With attacking innocent civilians I can.

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    • Marsupial@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh fuck off with this centrist nonsense.

      Right now only one side has the power and is enforcing crimes against humanity against the other.

      “American cops targeting black people is wrong, but a black person killed one cop once and that justifies the whole systematic suffering given to them” That’s basically what you sound like, a fucking moron.

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      • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The state of tribalism where when someone points out something isn’t simplistic clear “good vs evil” all the time they are suddenly “Enlightened centrism”

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  • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve been to Jewish gatherings where they had duplicates of some food products because half of them insisted on eating an Israeli brand and half of them refused to.

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  • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes, I’m one of them. But again, that’s not the audience I’m worried about. I’m not worried about what the mainstream thinks of Jews, or Jews think of Jews, I am worried about the feedback loop between far right influencers who promote conspiracy theories and the disaffected media consumers that they radicalize into violence. This kind of behavior is fuel for a very dangerous cycle.

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    • Cyberwitch_7493@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t disagree with this. Far right radicalization is a huge problem.

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  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And not all the people that support Israel are Jewish nor are being paid by Jews to do so. Many understand that Hamas is a fascist regime and simply don’t like fascism.

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• db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He’s and asshole regardless of his lineage, not because of it. Just so you know someone else out here has a little grounding in reality.

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• tryptaminev@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, not so much a conspiracy, but Israel is employing social media propaganda, similiar to the infamous russian “troll factories”. It was often very well noticeable on reddit, as sometimes two different accounts posted the exact same comment with pro Israeli talking points. Their main target is facebook and other large plattforms though.

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  • dsemy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Any sources on any of that?

    I often saw this parroted on Reddit, though without sources. What I didn’t see, is what you described as “very well noticeable” - and I used Reddit a lot.

    Anytime I look up this stuff I can only find relevant information from obscure websites which don’t list any sources. This honestly does seem like a conspiracy.

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    • tryptaminev@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Some 180 students from Israel and overseas studying at an academic institution in Herzliya, in central Israel, are working from morning to night to monitor and foil fake news and anti-Israel propaganda on social networks and to advance the country’s point of view amid the conflict with Hamas and other Gaza terror groups, the school said.

      Students in Israel are to form government-funded “covert units” to defend the country on Facebook and Twitter, it’s reported.

      Israel Making Positive Strides in Uphill Battle on the Information Front

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      • dsemy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        First and third links clearly state that these students are volunteers, and also a fairly small amount of them.

        Second link seems promising, but it offers almost no details, and its source is HaAretz, an Israeli publication which I personally don’t trust (also the source article is behind a paywall).

        Last link is about a private company and seems only slightly related.

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    • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      At this point it’s a given that any nation state with an interest in PR has their online troll teams.

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      • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Assumptions assumptions

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• BigNote@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As a guy wholly descended from the peoples of the British Isles, I have a similar feeling, only in my case, it really is true that my people have trashed the world for their personal benefit.

  Granted that the Irish side of my family was never entirely on board.

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• IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  wait wait wait are you saying that zuckerberg is jewish

  oh noes

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