Comment on Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• npdean@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Date of birth (with some other details) is kind of a sensitive information in the right hands

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    given that governments are now starting to make certain protests illegal, definitely not as bad as having your face in a database.

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You’re right and I’d go a bit further: It’s none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.

    Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.

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    • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The invasiveness is the point. Age gating explicit content is just the excuse.

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      • npdean@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        This

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• Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?

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    • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      A normal modern bank card (with 2FA) through a payment provider which obfuscates everything besides the name on your bank account and your bank account number (this will also share the country of your bank if you are in a SEPA region). And since people younger than 18 can use that system, they cannot use that for verification.

      Plus, you won’t be at risk of spending money you don’t have, and it doesn’t negatively impact your credit score like even having a credit card does in some countries.

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    • disco@lemdro.id [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      He’s saying if you have a credit card to pay there’s no need to verify (I think)

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      • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself

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• docoptix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It is 1970-01-01 like me, no?

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  • spookedintownsville@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    April 20th, 1969? Anyone?

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    it’s 2000-01-01 for me

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Eh, I don’t like it, but its kinda the norm if you wanna ever leave your country. My dad who’s a PRC Citizen doesn’t even have to go to the embassy/consulate anymore for passport renewal, its now done via an app, which of course they’d have to scan your face. I expect other countries to also adopt the same practice, just as they did with mass surveillance. And then it will eventually move from the government services to the private sector.

  I mean, I hate to think about it, but we might have mandatory brain chips in the future… 👀

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  • bless@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s a wide gap between “travelling to another country” and “listening to music.”

    I’m not trying to go on holiday to Spotify

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    fair point but given the direction US and UK are headed, something legal you do online can be illegal in a couple years with a face attached to that activity. What you mention is also bad (your face being in a face recognition database) but not as bad as that being attached to tons of behavioural data collected about you.

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• Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You’ve got to be 18 to be able to have a credit card.

  At that point someone else has verified your details for them, a bank (who are generally considered to be accurate about most things)

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