Comment on What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

it_depends_man@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hear me out.

  I liked Andromeda’s concept. I liked some of the side quests and characters, with the SAM & Ryder relationship being particularly interesting to me.

  The gunplay was the best of the franchise, even better than the excellent ME3MP which I dumped tons of hours into. It looked fantastic and ran well.

  …But yeah, the story felt like a bad first draft. Which is, reportedly, exactly what it was.

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  • it_depends_man@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The concept makes a lot of sense and was really really cool.

    I saw a playthrough and I had 3-4 problems:

    • everyone seems to be better at colonizing on their own, separate from the home base, whose literal only purpose is to colonize.
    • (mechanically the whole colonization thing is trivialized by mary sue story progression and deus ex machina devices)
    • all the new aliens are once again roughly 2m tall humanoids
    • the ending felt… very “we need setpieces” and “absolutely make it a parade of every minor character we talked to”

    ME1 even had Rachni, as non-humanoid npcs, could have something like that…

    (And obviously most parts of the art departments did their job well. It’s 99% a direction and writing problem.)

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    • Mithre@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d say part of the problem for Andromeda was that everyone else got there first in terms of colonization; the player isn’t exploring a new location, untouched by colonists, they’re going to an established settlement and exploring around that instead.

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah! There was a twist with the Kett to kinda justify 2 meter humanoid aliens, but still.

      And obviously most parts of the art departments did their job well. Hilarious but not game breaking bugs were the exception to the rule.

      It was released like a month too early; I don’t remember any bugs or art oddities in my playthrough. In fact, I thought the movement animations in particular were the best of any game I’ve played, and might still be.

      Ugh, that game needs a redo, even though I know that would never happen.

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  OMG - Mass Effect 3, yes.

  I’d add Fable III. I got it in a “Buy 2, get 1 for $5” sale and I STILL felt ripped off.

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  • Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I actually loved Fable 3, along with the rest of the series. It wasn’t as good as the other 2, but I still thought it was great.

    I wasn’t part of the zeitgeist at the time. But I was surprised to find out much later that so many people hated it.

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    • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I love Fable 3. I love how the weapons will change, I like the “Sanctuary” pause menu, and the world is awesome (if a little small). I do wish they were able to make it bigger with more side quests though.

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The thing that killed it for me was the timer. “xx Days Remaining”.

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Agreed, Fable III was a brutal step back. You couldn’t even equip clothing pieces individually anymore, and the whole “you’re king now, better collect enough money in time” sucked too.

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  • v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh gee, I couldn’t think of something to put there. But Fable 3 was definitely a flop

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  • Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Honestly everything after fable 1 (yes, that includes “the lost chapters”) was kinda meh.

    Fable was great, good storytelling with some twists and fun side quests. Loved the comat and the spell system and how much choice you had. End boss really felt like an end boss.

    Honesty, all of this? The same for “lost chapters”.

    The last boss fight was absolutely dogshit though, what a letdown. You have this huge fucking dragon and it was just such a disappointment compared to the OG jack of blades. It’s difficulty and movesets just didn’t feel right for a endboss level enemy.

    Personally never played 2, although I have watched some letsplays and meh. So far as I can tell they gutted the magic system, had a decent story and some quality of life changes.

    3 I did play and it would have been a decent game, if it wasn’t sold as a Fable game. Didn’t like the timer for the Big Bad, magic was boring.

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fable 2 largely was just as good as one with one added bonus… for me at least.

      The cutscenes were all done in engine, with all the same rules that the game has.

      So running into the final boss fight, I had run out of healing items, so I ate ALL my food and drank ALL my beer and wine before starting the final fight.

      Cut scene starts. Villain starts his villiain monologue as villains do. My character proceeds to puke all over his shoes.

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• Nima@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  strangely enough, for all the hate Andromeda gets, I have more playtime in that game than the original trilogy combined.

  Andromeda is more fun to replay. and to me the combat is hella fun. the characters are good. the loyalty missions are awesome.

  the story? ehhhh. it has potential, honestly. and left us wide open for exploration.

  its not the most flawless perfect game in existence, but damn its pretty good.

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