I mean, that depends. How much love did she put in the coffee?
Comment on Epstein puts my morality into perspective
TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean, you should tip the barista, though.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Please don’t put any love related fluids in my coffee
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well then you shouldn’t be ordering Cupids Coffee
Outwit1294@lemmy.today 2 months ago
No, it is not our job to pay their salaries
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We need to advocate for better pay, and stop taking tipped jobs.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We need to advocate for better pay
Yes.
and stop taking tipped jobs.
If people could just “stop taking tipped jobs” you really think they wouldn’t have been doing that already?
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I stopped taking tipped jobs. I’m homeless and unemployed, and suffer from depression and ADHD.
They aren’t necessarily linked, but doing one’s best to stop participating in certain parts of a capitalist society is actually a choice. It’s not like depression.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
But who are you tipping, really.
In the US, there is such thing as “tipped minimum wage”. So, federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour, but the employer may pay as little as $2,13/hour themselves if the worker makes up the rest with tips.
Most extreme in Delaware. Minimum wage is $15/hour, but minimum tipped wage is just $2.23, so up to $12.77/hour in tips can just be a discount to the employer.
Why do you think tips are being pushed so much in the US? Chart per jurisdiction: www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/…/tipped
AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
And lots of employers will refuse to pay more than the tipped rate on slow days stealing wages from the workers if they think they can get away with it.
11111one11111@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Jesus christ. No they dont. There’s more than enough dolts like you being employed in an unskilled trade industry for shit wages that has minimal overhead as it is so stealing your wage via tips would mean the restaurant is not going to be in business for long. Its not your employer’s job to babysit your paycheck. If you arent reporting discrepancies, thats on you. Noone is guna keep working at a place that isnt paying employees what their owed. Especially not in an industry where the wage floor is so low and the employment is so heavily driven by word of mouth.
AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Why the hostility and insults to
unskilledessential workers? Those jobs are often worked at by young workers who don’t necessarily know their rights. I agree it’s bad business practice to do it but it absolutely happens.LOL Yes, it literally is.
Nice insult, very constructive. What would the capitalist business owners do without people like you putting down workers and defending their shitty business practices? Also ah yes it is the workers fault for that they are getting wages stolen from them not the owner’s or manager’s.
AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Also stealing wages via tips is different than not paying the difference between tipped min wage and regular minimum wage when there isn’t much business. Maybe there was some confusion on your part about what I was referring to there.
Both are forms of wage theft and both do happen, but I wasn’t referring to stealing tips in my OC. Perhaps I could’ve worded my comment better to make that clearer.
Auth@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You wish they did because then you’d have a easy lawsuit with plenty of lawyers willing to take that case. “lots of employers will refuse to pay” is a straight lie, employers are happy to pay the wage if you dont get any tips. Its still min wage and min wage is fuck all.
AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
You missed this apparently.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Bud you think fraud doesn’t happen? How naive are you? Businesses will happily commit fraud if they think they can get away with it. And they do, routinely.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Are you thinking not tipping would magically transform a “tipped” position (that was subject to the minimum tipped wage) into a non-tipped position (that was subject to the normal minimum wage)? What’s the threshold? A particular percentage of transactions refraining from tipping? Under a specific dollar amount of tips per worker? The employer having to supplement the tips to get it up to the minimum tipped wage more than a certain percentage of the time? Are you sure “yeah, but there’s a blank on the receipt labeled ‘tip’, so theoretically the workers could get tips” isn’t enough to make the minimum tipped wage apply? Does it vary by jurisdiction?
Meanwhile, the real person behind the real counter of real coffee shops you like probably regularly skips meals to afford rent.
Even if what you’re suggesting could work, who’s to say they wouldn’t immediately replace it with some “gig economy” sort of alternative that would turn the workers into freelancers to whom no minimum wage applied?
Yes, advocate for worker rights, but don’t kid yourself that not tipping your servers is somehow doing them a favor.
Auth@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It would actually magically transform it from a tipped position to a non tipped position. If you dont tip the server they still receive a legal min wage. If you tip the server all you’re doing is paying the employers share of that employees wage.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
No they don’t, at least in every single tipped position I’ve ever worked, which would be at least 20 different places.
In reality what you’re doing is just fucking over the person working that position. I agree that the rules suck, but you’re not changing them by not tipping. Get involved in a way that will actually make a difference, and if you can’t afford to tip, just consider yourself unable to afford that particular service.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
You assume the business isn’t committing fraud by not reporting accurate tips and/or aren’t taking advantage of the naive and vulnerable by convincing them it is in their best interest to not report accurately.
Wage theft is the largest and most common category of theft in the US, after all.
The only real solution is a general strike of all wage staff that prevents these businesses from operating until things change. But that would require massive unionization efforts before it would even be remotely possible.
0ndead@infosec.pub 2 months ago
This sounds like something a non-tipper would say