Comment on Lemmy is a tech literate echo chamber

RedIce25@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Relevant xkcd:

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  • misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s easy to forget the average person probably only knows terminal commands for Debian. And Fedora, of course.

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    • lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They may not know all the commands, so we’ll just tell them man man and they’ll be able to bootstrap from there

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      • misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Of course.

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  • ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Whenever this topic comes up particularly with tech literacy, this article never ceases to amaze me: www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/

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• kopasz7@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The curse of knowledge; makes you lose the perspective of the average man in the field of your expertise.

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  • naught101@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How bad this is in practice is something you can choose to mitigate simply by regularly talking to normal people.

    Source: I’m a climate scientist, I do this all the time (and only rarely get looks of complete confusion)

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    • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      As someone in wildlife conservation, this doesn’t work for everyone. For me, it just makes me hate talking to people. They will be confidently wrong and nothing you say will convince them otherwise. Doesn’t help that I live in one of the worst educated states in the union.

      Also, the 'tism puts me at a disadvantage out the gate. So I might be biased.

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      • naught101@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t necessarily mean trying to convince people of something, I more mean conversing with interested, but less educated people. Convincing people is a whole separate skill set to just explaining your technical knowledge in plain language (which is the part that’s beneficial here).

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    • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Climate is something people already understand to some extent. If you start talking about different climate models and their assumptions, you should get those confused looks straight away.

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      • naught101@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t though, because I actually know how to talk to normal humans. It’s not that hard. You start high-level, and then gauge their curiosity (via questions and body language), and then go a bit deeper, and if they start getting confused, then you back up a bit, and you just stay at their level, not at whatever insane depth your own brain might be at at the time. You use metaphors to link what’s happening in your work to things they have experienced in their life to build understanding at their level. Simplify and abstract, without dumbing it down.

        My brain is fully stuck in philosophy of science mode at the moment, and thinking about how to integrate climate science with financial risk models (and how that doesn’t make sense in some ways). I have talked with people from across the spectrum, from people working in climate science or finance for decades, to people with a high-school education. The conversations are nearly always interesting (for both of us), and usually decently long. It’s really not that hard, if you just make an effort to meet people where they are.

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  • BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Once you work at a place doing lvl 1 tech support, like say a Geek Squad, the perspective smacks you in the face everyday until you’re broken.

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• naught101@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No, farmers know barley, average people bearly know

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  • Eczpurt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No, Baloo, Paddington, and Winnie the Pooh know bearly. Average people barely know.

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    • naught101@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      whelp, I guess that’s the end of that joke thread

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  • Tai@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No, biologists know bearly, average people, bairly know

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• Rawrosaurus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I know people who claim to be tech literate but then keep sending me actual photos of their screen whenever they want to share anything. :|

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  • BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Admittedly, I do almost all of my messaging from my phone, and 100% of Lemmy. Most of the time if I have something on my computer to share, it’s easiest to just take a picture. If fidelity matters, I can take a screen grab and share it to my phone via KDE connect. It’s not a matter of knowing how, it’s the effort required for a slightly clearer image.

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• cryptTurtle@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  When something goes wrong the average response is some amount of confusion and anger with rapid clicking

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• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There’s a huge number of people here who would learn a lot from giving tech support to someone like my mum.

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