Comment on YSK: Deezer, the music streaming service, is owned by a company whose Founder and CEO is a Russian Oligarch with connections to the Kremlin and donates to the American Republican party.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• derin@lemmy.beru.co ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bandcamp is pretty good, though. Especially on Bandcamp Fridays where all the profits go to the artists. Plus, I like getting FLACs.

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  • citizensongbird@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Problem with Bandcamp is they got bought out, first by Epic Games and then by Songtradr, and each time it’s gone through enshittification. Bandcamp Fridays used to be a weekly thing but got changed to quarterly with little announcement, and then half their staff got laid off to pad the bottom line. Even with all that they’re better than the alternatives, but they’re still on a decaying trajectory.

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    • Saurok@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And included in half the staff was every member of their union bargaining committee. The workers got done dirty when that sale to Songtradr happened. I’m not even sure if Songtradr has recognized the union yet. They had just won their election (overwhelmingly) and the sale happened right after that.

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    • derin@lemmy.beru.co ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah I agree with all of this. Shame there isn’t a better option at the moment, but they’re the lesser of a bunch of evils - so I guess I’m sticking with them for a bit longer.

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Absolutely. At the end of the day the main point here is just don’t use the major streaming services.

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    • derin@lemmy.beru.co ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh, my bad: I thought bandcamp was part of the major services. Shows what I know 😅

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• GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are you under the impression that this will pay any artist anything?

  It’s fine to take a pro-piracy stance, but pretending that you’re doing it out of concern for the artists is grade A-bullshit.

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re right.

    I should figure out a way to replace the income these artists get for my individual stream. It comes out to fractions upon fractions of a penny.

    The point here is robbing the CEO. There’s no meaningful impact to the artist thanks to the way these services are structured.

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    • threeduck@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have some music on streaming services, and get a couple of coins every month. If you pirate my music instead, I’ll get nothing.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Set up a Patreon and offer exclusive music content to subscribers, sell directly to fans through Bandcamp. With good marketing and social media presence you would get several times what any streaming service will pay you ever. Even if most people are pirating your music. If you are being pirated, you are worth listening to, and that means that people are willing to pay you something. I tell this to all aspiring musicians, companies are not your friend, labels are not your buddies. The pirate is not your enemy, the megabillionaire monopolistic corp is. Many musicians owe their popularity because a music pirate put their stuff online and got them noticed.

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• bigb@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Go a step further and use something like Deemix to grab FLAC files from their servers

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  • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is the only reason to use Deezer.

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That works too.

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  • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or Tidal-dl-ng for Tidal

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• vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Guess how much money the artists get when you do that?

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve already addressed this. They don’t get fractions of fractions of a penny.

    We know this because Weird Al used his year-end video to make the world aware that, in return for his tens of millions of streams, he got around $80.00 from Spotify.

    The artists aren’t losing anything meaningful when rip songs off Youtube, but the CEO is for sure.

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    • EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you’re talking about that video where he talked about getting $12 for 80 million streams…he was very clearly taking the piss.

      He made closer to $200k, which is still pretty low (hence, the joke) and doesn’t account for his labels cut.

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    • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We know this because Weird Al used his year-end video to make the world aware that, in return for his tens of millions of streams, he got around $80.00 from Spotify for a whole year.

      How does that work? 10 million streams pays more than $20k in royalties.

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• tomkatt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I dunno, Qobuz seems pretty fucking solid, and still allows for purchasing your music directly in FLAC and other formats. What drama is there about them?

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• Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As a fan I kinda view the music business this way

  • Your music brings me in
  • You make money off selling ads on your videos and content and platforms
  • You make money selling merch
  • You make money doing shows
  • You MIGHT make a little streaming, but it won’t be much

  That’s how I see it.

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  • DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I saw a documentary one, and one artist said: back in the days, you made shows to sell your music (vinyl, later CDs), but now you make music to go on tour and make shows.

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• Wiz@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This past week I found DoubleDouble.top which has superior quality that YouTube converters IMHO.

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