Comment on America wants AI that doesn't care about misinformation, DEI, and climate change

just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  As a US citizen, prove to me that most Americans don’t want this.

  Yeah, I see the protests, even in my Trump-loving town.

  But that’s it. People holding signs.

  I don’t see aggressive action. I don’t see the necessary violence - yeah I said it.

  I’m moving out of the country because everyone I’ve tried to rally says they’re too busy, they don’t have time, they care but they don’t care that much, they think everything will work out, or they believe it isn’t as bad as the news says.

  The people I’ve voted for and elected just sit on their hands and do fuck all.

  I’m 110% for fighting for and defending what I used to believe in, but not when literally all evidence and signs point to nobody else giving a shit.

  Someone call me when you’re ready to legitimately strategize about how to topple this fascist regime.

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Zero presidents have ever lost as much support for anything at any time in the history of this country: www.economist.com/…/trump-approval-tracker

    Not only is this a wildly unpopular president, it’s a president who has shed 35-50% of their own voters. It’s proof positive that you are wrong.

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    • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thank you for the information. I just hope it leads to action. Poll results to me are just someone standing around waving a sign.

      These fascists didn’t rise to power by following all the rules, and they won’t exit or lose power by us following the rules. It’s a sad truth.

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        We’ve seen this before.

        They know how it ends.

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    • RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Brave of you to assume America will ever have free and fair elections again.

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      • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They haven’t for a while. It’s just going to get more obvious.

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    • Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I look forward to the big swing in the mid terms then based off your information

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Nice, my red state is net disapprove.

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  • thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As a u s citizen, you’re wrong. End of story most don’t want it. Trump wants it. No one voted for trump because of a I. So stop lying to people here.

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    • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      As stated, I’ve tried rallying in my area and nobody seems interested. I’m also at a disadvantage if I just go at it alone because I’m not white.

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• Part4@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This, at least, is a fact.

    You could have voted Green. You could have voted Marianne Williamson in the Democratic primary. The little power our voters do have they just wasted.

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    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The 2024 democratic primary was effectively nonexistent because Biden was running for re-election. Don’t be ridiculous.

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      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The 2024 democratic primary was non-existent for two reason:

        • 1. Democrats rig their primaries, and they admitted in court in Florida.
        • 2. Dementia isn’t a redline for Democrats and their partisans.

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• bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Beat me to it. Most same Americans don’t want this, it’s the current administration and their moronic lap dogs, and the conglomerates that are paying into Cheeto’s personal accounts to “influence him” that want this. Id hope that most of us realize how insanely idiotic this is.

  Also to, AI anti-regulation 2: electric boogaloo? Like they literally just tried to shoehorn this into the big bullshit bill only for it to get yanked, and that was what, two weeks ago?

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yup. That’s never going to fly, and even if it does, that doesn’t mean the Executive all of a sudden gets to start telling private companies how they can and can’t operate according to the law. It’s so stupid.

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• AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  While I understand what you are saying, let’s not forget that the people who helped the turd get into power were not just those actively voting for him but also those who didn’t vote because “both sides!!”. That’s not “a minority of the country” but actually the majority of it.

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• brianpeiris@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  What matters more? What AMERICA wants, or what the administration enacts in to policy? You’re missing the point if you’re arguing about my phrasing.

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The phrasing means everything.

    Example: “Trump wants…”

    VS

    Example: “America wants…”

    Big difference. Executive Orders are a memo, not law. It’s disturbing that I have to keep saying this and explaining this.

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    • brianpeiris@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I did not use the word “law”. So you’re arguing that EO’s have no actual effect? That is blatantly false: scientificamerican.com/…/trumps-dei-purge-is-hitt…

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m arguing that you’re intentionally trying to play semantics with phrasing and claim it doesn’t matter, when it absolutely does, and everyone in here is explaining to you why. That’s all.

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      • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Executive orders only affect federal agencies. If they were laws, we’d all be arrested.

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    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You know, this might actually be really bad politics.

      Trump is not the only person at the top. He’s kind of a lame duck, actually: he just does whatever Miller says. The only time he steps in is when he’s personally insulted by something because he desperately wants everyone to know he’s a very special boy.

      I do take issue with democrats blaming everything the republicans are up to on Trump specifically, as if the party might return to normal once he dies.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It probably will return somewhat to normal, assuming public opinion continues on its trajectory. People overwhelmingly don’t like Trump, so anyone affiliated w/ him are going to hurt in the next couple elections unless public opinion turns around.

        I don’t know what “normal” looks like, but it’s probably somewhere between Trump and Bush. I’m still not a fan, but moving away from Trump is going to be a net win.

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  • forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That…what???

    No, your choice of phrasing conveys your message.

    If you’re argument is not against the American people, but rather the administration, then your wording is, well, wrong.

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    • brianpeiris@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re missing the point if you’re arguing about my phrasing.

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      • forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No. You’re dodging the argument. You chose to phrase it that way. And pretending that’s just some incidental thing with no meaning honestly is about the dumbest response I’ve seen in a while.

        You have made the argument that it is the American people, not the administration. You. Not anybody else.

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    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      How do you refer to the machinations of a state?

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• WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  America absolutely wants this. If they didn’t they would stop it. Period.

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    LOL

    Sure, Jan.

    We should stop it. Period. Most Americans are working three jobs and 100 hours a week to be able to rent a roach-infested studio and keep their kids from starving.

    AI isn’t even in the top ten of issues that most Americans have the time or energy to confront in a meaningful way.

    But let’s not allow the reality of life in this country to interfere with a good, silly Internet screed.

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    • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You just described a country of miserable people with nothing to lose.

      Was it your intent to bring their cowardice into starker relief, or to pretend that somehow they’re excused from acting like humans with agency because… “it’s hard?”

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      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Totally.

        They should be brave, like you’re brave, and levying meaningless critiques on the Internet.

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Wow. We got a certified genius here, folks. Somebody get this fool a microphone.

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  • toomanypancakes@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You're right, everybody without the money to make the trip should travel 2000 miles to commit suicide by cop. That's sensible.

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    • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You sure do have a low opinion of yourself and your fellow countrymen.

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      • toomanypancakes@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Correct.

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• thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Thank you anyone who profiles entire people with stereotypes and outright lies is a bigot, no matter what they say

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  • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Like how some americans see the Middel East, Russia, China, Israel, Palestine, Mexico etc etc etc…

    Its not nice when its going the other way, is it.

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    • thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I don’t do that because it wouldn’t be right. Doesn’t matter who did what to me in the past.

      For instance if you were a plumber and you intentionally smashed a piece of furniture while at a clients house, does that mean all plumbers are violently vandalizing people’s homes ,no.

      Because adult human beings know that the actions of one do not define the actions of all.

      I am not changing this position. You can get the last word, throw an insult at me or do nothing.

      Choice is yours but I’m done. I don’t have to defend the correct position. It is correct.

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      • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I just, I do not understand why this upsets people so much.

        I work for a company that does things I don’t want them to do all the time. I’ve never felt like someone saying “[the company] wants to do [this thing]” was ever referring to me specifically whatsoever.

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      • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You are right. I don’t disagree at all. But racist mentallity is insane, and that is what I’m calling out. As do you.

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  • CXORA@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So it’s a stereotype to describe what a country is literally doing … okay.

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    • thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s a stereotype to ascribe traits to an entire group of people when you say “America” or “Americans” in The context given. Otherwise one would say , the United States government.

      Of course , that requires effort.

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      • CXORA@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        What traits is being ascribed to all Americans here?

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  • thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And racist vigits have started downvoting

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• bollybing@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So do something about it. If you just sit there and post “I don’t want this” on the Internet they’re just going to keep doing it.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Like what?

    • vote? I already did, three times, and he still won by 20% margin
    • message my reps? They’re all Republicans.
    • protest? That’s only slightly more effective than posting online, and carries the risk of arrest and whatnot
    • attempt an assassination? Yeah right, I’m not getting close w/ the Secret Service, and I’d just leave my kids without one of their parents and income
    • move? All my family and friends live here, and I actually like my country, I just don’t like this admin; and wouldn’t that just concentrate the crazies a bit more?

    There’s not really anything I can reasonably do, other than sit tight and teach my kids how to be excellent people.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      He won by a 1.6% margin, buddy.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Not in my state, and since we don’t have a national popular vote, the only thing that’s relevant for my vote is the spread in my state.

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