It sure feels like that margin has been shrinking in the last year or so.
Comment on "Pilot had to dive aggressively to avoid midair collision over Burbank airport."
DesolateMood@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
Don’t planes have seatbelts? How did so many people manage to fly out of their seats?
Also friendly reminder to everybody that planes are still the safest mode of transportation by a significant margin
Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
So I don’t know how true it is (or isn’t). This wiki article gives a list of “all newsworthy” incidents since 2023. Got two (now three) this year. Five last year. Ten in 2023. But newsworthy is the key word. We have an incident like we did in DC, and in the immediate wake of it there were news reports just about anytime someone sneezed on an airplane (hyperbole).
I’ll tell you, my eye test and feelings agree with you, but I just don’t know how true it is. And it’s hard to avoid getting political, but there is a vested interest in certain news circles to paint a bleak picture (don’t take this wrong, I’m in favor of funding government agencies).
So yeah, fuck it, you know?
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
They have seatbelts, but for the most of the flight they are unused - you only need to buckle in during takeoff, landing, and if when encountering turbulence.
I guess there wasn’t enough time to get all the passengers to fasten their seatbelts before the collision?
18107@aussie.zone 14 hours ago
I wonder if you’ve ever listened to the part of the safety briefing before every flight where they instruct you to keep the seatbelt fastened throughout the entire flight.
Judging by the number of clicks I hear when the seatbelt light turns off, I’d say most people don’t.
stoly@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
You should always jagger the belt on unless you are standing up for some reason. This story is exactly why.
rollerbang@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Where I fly they also always advise to remain fastener regardless of no immediate warnigs. Exactly for situations like this - and others.
theneverfox@pawb.social 16 hours ago
Yeah, but people are still going to be using the bathrooms and such, even if you assume everyone actually obeys the rules
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Pour one out for the poor fella who finally got his turn to poop just before this happened.
dev_null@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Of course, but it should be the 2-4 people who are actively going somewhere / in the bathroom, everyone else should have their seatbelt on.
yamper@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
because of a few exception cases this is never going to work
shane@feddit.nl 16 hours ago
Planes are the safest form of transportation if you look at safety per km travelled. If you look at other metrics, like safety per trip or per travel time then they are less safe than busses or trains.
travel.stackexchange.com/a/184330
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
As with all statistics, you can make the numbers say what we you want. Planes can carry 500+ people, so an incident risks all 500 of those passengers; similar for rail, but not so much for the bus. And I think about bus and there’s two different kinds of buses, IMO, the inner city bus that’s on the road for hours, but doing few miles while making frequent stops. Not sure what a journey is then, whether it’s stop by stop or from start to finish. And there’s
So yeah, I dunno. If it’s your time it’s your time. I don’t think any of these means of travel are “unsafe,” whatever that means. But I’ll still have a couple of beers before I get on the plane, because I’m not afraid of flying, but having a couple beers beforehand makes it better.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Have to admit this is kind of funny.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
Last time I posted something about this, it was downvoted to oblivion. Glad to see that didn’t happen here. There are some statistical quirks that make this obvious once you think about it though.
Planes tend to make long trips, so anything measured on a per-km basis is going to be wildly diluted. Something like a car will tend to make much shorter (but more frequent) trips, so the per-km stat won’t be diluted. But inversely, the per-trip stat will be diluted with cars, purely because they’re used much more often.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
Bus and Rail rules.
Motorcycles are for the young who don’t want to get old.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
Everyone wants to shit on motorcycles, but it’s as much a red herring as a meaningful statement. You might as well mention that horse riding is 25x more dangerous than motorcycles. And if you really want to get into the weeds, go look up how many motorcycle fatalities are single vehicle accidents, and how many of those are due to speeding or alcohol involvement. So if you don’t drink, and don’t act like a fool, you’re really not all that badly off. Still worse than being in a steel cage for protection, but it’s not only for people “who don’t want to get old.”