Ubiquiti. Cloud gateway max (router + NVR) for $200 with no storage, add your own 2tb nvme, get a ubiquiti doorbell for $300. Little pricy, but simple to setup and all the footage lives locally on the cloud gateway max. And you can add more cameras later. The cloud gateway max is an excellent 2.5G router. Slap on a WiFi 7 access point for $200 more and you got yourself a killer home network.
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Junkernaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
So, what are people using to get:
- good quality streaming
- doorbell alert
- motion alerts
- local and remote access
- recording storage
Currently using Ring (outside of America) and looking to migrate away. There are some nice other features like distinguishing motion vs people vs vehicles that are nice to have but can live without.
moseschrute@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is the choice if you want to buy the equipment and it works out of the box. Its cheaper if you want to sort of build your own setup but requires more maintenance and setup.
Toribor@corndog.social 2 weeks ago
I want the Ubiquiti Doorbell Pro (wired Ethernet) but it’s always sold out. Plus I’ve been hesitant to spend ion a Cloud Gateway or Dream Machine. I just wish I could use my own storage.
I need to just bite the bullet though.
moseschrute@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The cloud gateway max lets you use your own storage without getting one of their giant NVRs. I got the wireless doorbell. Initially I kinda regretted not getting the wired one, but once I tuned my WiFi I haven’t had any issues. But definitely go wired if you can.
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s solved tech and there are hundreds of alternatives so you can definitely find something local. I’ve heard Netatmo recommended for Europeans (French, gdpr compliant)
tabular@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There are many other cameras but most have the same potential to do this sort of shit. Sending video to some server you don’t control, on cameras you don’t control because it’s proprietary, isn’t going to cut it if privacy is your goal.
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No, most don’t do it.
tabular@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What is the incentive to do this sort of stuff?
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I have a piezoelectric doorbell.
The bell part plugs directly into a wall socket. The button part is completely wireless and batteryless and is affixed near my front door.
Been working like clockwork for a decade to let me know when someone is at the door and I’m home.
If I’m not home, the postman or delivery driver leaves a note to go to the collection center for my package. If it’s a small package not requiring signature, they just leave it at the door or in the mailbox if it fits. None of that changes with a camera.
Why overcomplicate life.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 weeks ago
The best thing is you don’t need any of that. Just install normal doorbell. We all love gadgets but some of them are just not worth it.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Hard agree. What does a video doorbell connected to the internet solve? I’m concerned that people dont trust their neighbors to this extent. Sort of a canary in the coal mine type thing.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 weeks ago
I think some people also think they need it because they order way too much junk from the internet but it’s really just an indication of bad habits. If it’s for security a single camera doorbell is definitely not adequate solution either.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t have a doorbell of any kind (the button isn’t even hooked up to anything). My neighbours are jerks but they won’t steal packages or anything like that.
We’re living in a low trust society that used to be a high trust society a few decades ago. I believe all of the problems you see in politics ultimately stem from this. Factionalism is tearing western society apart.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Crime has been dropping for decades, yet news coverage is higher than it’s ever been. The oligarchs know we’re easier to rule if we distrust each other so we don’t work together and figure out who’s actually screwing us over.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What does a video doorbell connected to the internet solve? I’m concerned that people dont trust their neighbors to this extent. Sort of a canary in the coal mine type thing.
It’s not that I don’t trust my neighbors, I don’t trust anyone outside of those I personally know well.
Growing up around people who abuse hard drugs tends to destroy the trust you have in those around you after you have your shit stolen repeatedly. Both my wife and I had shit stolen from closed front porches when we were growing up, so I have cameras that watch the sides of my house.
Plenty of us have good reasons not to trust those around us. Especially in this day and age of terrorists walking around with state authority.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Neighbors can be people you dont well, you should still trust them anyways, because you’d want them to treat you the same.
If you have drug addicts regularly causing you problems, might do you some good to befriend them in some way or help them out, instead of secure your shit and avoid them more. They aren’t any different than you are.
chtk@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
I recently adopted a dog who I want to monitor when I’m away from home. So I got a cheap motion tracking in-home camera with cloud storage, and AI identification for people and pets. The AI functions never fucking worked. I already had a Ring camera.
Did a bit of research after realising the cheapo camera was shit, and went for a eufy stack to replace the Ring doorbell and tbr shitty in-house camera.
I now have:
- eufy Video Doorbell
- eufy HomeBase 3, with an added 1TB of storage
- eufy IndoorCam C220
This gives me
- local storage for both cameras on the HomeBase.
- the HomeBase also gives you local AI for (individual) person, (general) pet, vehicle, and package identification. I haven’t tried the vehicle identification.
- streaming in the app for both cameras should work in 2k. I have it set to 1080p. It’s good enough for me.
- continuous recording is an option. I have it set to motion alerts because
- the app gives you motion and doorbell alerts. You can configure how much information you want in the notifications, to prevent video’s from passing through eufy’s servers.
gesshoku@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
While this happened a few years ago, I’d still suggest to block it from accessing the internet/cloud in your firewall nonetheless.
mjtsai.com/…/eufy-cameras-uploading-to-cloud-with…
Even if it’s not on eufy’s end, there could always be a vulnerability.
Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Reolink Doorbell ( Firewalled from connecting outside LAN) + Frigate (self hosted)
Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I use a $40 tp-link video doorbell and it has has all of that.
projectsquared@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Just bought a Reolink rln46 NVR and four cameras. I don’t have the doorbell, but every other feature you requested works flawlessly. It records 24/7 in 4K but can stream at lower resolutions if you want when you’re away from home on mobile. You can set what notifications you receive and when you want to receive them. You can even go back and search for events by type in the recorded video when they were never flagged for notification in the first place. I’ve been thoroughly impressed and plan to add to the system in the coming months.
toynbee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I also use Reolink, including both the NVR and doorbell, and have been very pleased with it.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You can run all of that on a Raspberry Pi, without third-party access and surveyllance.
kinther@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes I did this years ago in 2013, but the problem for my family was accessing the recordings (basically I never set up remote access outside of our LAN)
vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
i use wyze, been solid for years esp for the price. local SD storage is a huge plus for me and the streaming quality is good and loads insanely fast. i have a handful of blink cameras around the property but never use them anymore bc the interface and UX is so shit
7toed@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Home assistant + frigate has been serving myself and my family on separate sites for about 2 years. It has definitely kicked my ass, but seeing “privacy friendly” reolink cameras constantly phone home on my firewall assured me it was worth it. Wireguard tunnel in and you have remote access with practically no security concerns*
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
2nd this configuration. My firewall rules block all camera external access and Frigate (once configured) is superb at detecting people without false alerts. It is disturbing just how much traffic smart devices try to send to China and Amazon even when not subscribed to cloud services. The open Wireguard ports appear closed to scanners so I’m also reasonably comfortable with network security.