It is in first world countries, if we define first world as western europeam cuntries
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FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Or education could be free. Just a thought.
theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 2 days ago
kadup@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The best universities in Brazil, the ones everyone wants to study at and the ones producing cutting edge research… Are all free, they’re public universities. The private ones can’t compete on most metrics.
So yeah, maybe americans should drop the whole “first world” tag to pretend they’re special and rebalance their priorities.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 days ago
American public universities used to be free. But a lot of students protested things like racism and the Vietnam War so Ronald Reagan as governor of California and later as president worked hard to ensure that American students had to pay lest they have the time and financial freedom to exercise their rights
theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Huh, never even heard of them not that would mean anything in the world 😅
kadup@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Maybe my phrasing was a bit accidentally misleading - when I mentioned they are where everyone wants to study at or the ones publishing the most research, I meant locally, for Brazilians and to some extent our LATAM neighbors.
That’s why you probably never heard of them by name, they don’t carry the weight of an “Oxford” or “Tokyo University”.
That said, you absolutely interacted with fruits of their research. The term “ultra processed food” comes from the University of São Paulo and their research.
Linnce@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They research a bunch of great stuff. A friend of mine was involved in this one vaccine against crack and cocaine addiction from UFMG.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
free? people should be paid to get an education
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Not sure if it’s still a thing but I knew a girl from Norway who basically went to college from age 18-30 getting like four different degrees because as long as she remained in higher education, the government would keep paying for her education + living expenses.
Not sure if that was the original intent but it sure does result in a highly educated populace.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Norway here: This is kind of how it works, but not quite.
While studying, you get a student loan. 40 % of that loan is automatically “forgiven” (turned into a stipend) as you complete your courses. In order to remain eligible for the loan, you need to maintain a certain progression in your studies, and there’s also a limit to how many years you can receive the stipend for (I think it’s eight years now). As long as you’re studying, the loan doesn’t accrue interest, and you don’t need to make down payments.
Throughout five years, I received very roughly 200k NOK (≈20k USD) in stipend, and 300k NOK in loans.
Also, a PhD is treated as an ordinary job here. I’m paid about 600k NOK (≈60k USD) per year, which is a bit less than my peers from engineering studies in industry jobs (the get around 700-800), but it’s by no means a bad pay. I’ve been able to afford a small apartment together with my SO on that pay. Hearing about places where people have to take up loans in order to finance taking a phd makes my head spin.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 days ago
In America you usually do get paid for the PhD, you however get little other support snd the pay is bad
grue@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Huh. I just kinda assumed Norway would use the Euro, but TIL it’s not even a member of the EU. Weird.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Have a friend who was a sort-of perpetual grad student - bouncing from Sweden to Italy to Australia - over about ten years, pursuing a degree in marine biology. Along the way, she contributed thousands of hours of labor to various research teams. Eventually, she got burned out, married a neurologist, and moved to a small house in Queensland. Now she mostly just gardens and raises bunnies, which she is extraordinarily good at thanks to her education.
Was this money wasted or did the universities get exactly what they paid her for? Idk. But it seems a far better way to employ people than what we’ve done with The Pentagon or ICE.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Students benefits are pretty much that where I live
BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 days ago
From where I am anyways. You do get paid for grad school. You have to TA various things, but you get paid.