Comment on Trump Team Has Full Meltdown Over CNN Story on ICE-Tracking App

• mystik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Can you prove that people are breaking the law by the mere collection and existence of this data?

  How about those Flock ALPR cameras showing up everywhere? Can we be sure the collected data is being used in accordance with the law?

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They’re not just collecting it though, that’s the point - they’re publishing it on an app that is specifically made to help people evade law enforcement and to target violence at law enforcement.

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    • mystik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      They’re not advocating violence, just reporting a fact. (A hammer is a tool, but also a murder weapon) But you do understand the power asymmetry of an unaccountable police force, right? And just how dangerous this is to civil society? There have been multiple accounts of excessive and incorrect deportations by ICE, with no visible effort to attempt to correct those problems. People are now using the meager tools we have left to try to enforce accountability, before there is only one last tool in the toolbox.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        They’re not advocating violence, just reporting a fact.

        lol no one believes that, not even you.

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• Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Are you a lawyer? What law are you citing?

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting, to name a few.

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I want you to explain to me how when Google does it (allowing anyone with an app to report a speed trap - you know where law enforcement is present) it’s legal but when some random developer who’s not a multi-million dollar Corp does it, it’s illegal and obstruction.

      I’ll wait for your list of case law.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Waze and Google maps don’t let you report them for the purpose of helping illegal immigrants avoid law enforcement, or to tell people where to attack.

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    • zarniwoop@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Bit of a meltdown you had there mate. Are you ok?

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• orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yes, we should follow the laws like our government officials and police always do. Give me a fucking break lmao.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    You can choose to break the law if you want, but you can’t then cry about it if/when you get caught. This guy can make his ICE-tracking app, but he has to live with the repercussions.

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    • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Nobody is crying about getting arrested. The fascists are arresting anyone they please without due process. The people risking their safety know the risks. ICE and the police are breaking the law by obscuring their faces and badge numbers, but you’re complaining about working class folks breaking laws written by the ruling class. Laws that they constantly ignore.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        The fascists are arresting anyone they please without due process.

        Anyone, or just those in the country illegally? Also law enforcement officers aren’t “fascists” just because they’re LEOs.

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