Comment on Trump Team Has Full Meltdown Over CNN Story on ICE-Tracking App
Serinus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago“the First Amendment protects the right to gather information about what public officials do on public property.” Smith v. City of Cumming, 212 F. 3d 1332, 1333 (11th Cir. 2000).
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
Sure, you can gather that information. You can’t then put it out there publicly to help people break the law, and to put federal law enforcement employees life in danger.
mystik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can you prove that people are breaking the law by the mere collection and existence of this data?
How about those Flock ALPR cameras showing up everywhere? Can we be sure the collected data is being used in accordance with the law?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
They’re not just collecting it though, that’s the point - they’re publishing it on an app that is specifically made to help people evade law enforcement and to target violence at law enforcement.
mystik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They’re not advocating violence, just reporting a fact. (A hammer is a tool, but also a murder weapon) But you do understand the power asymmetry of an unaccountable police force, right? And just how dangerous this is to civil society? There have been multiple accounts of excessive and incorrect deportations by ICE, with no visible effort to attempt to correct those problems. People are now using the meager tools we have left to try to enforce accountability, before there is only one last tool in the toolbox.
Serinus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Are you a lawyer? What law are you citing?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
Obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting, to name a few.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I want you to explain to me how when Google does it (allowing anyone with an app to report a speed trap - you know where law enforcement is present) it’s legal but when some random developer who’s not a multi-million dollar Corp does it, it’s illegal and obstruction.
I’ll wait for your list of case law.
zarniwoop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 2 weeks ago
Yes, we should follow the laws like our government officials and police always do. Give me a fucking break lmao.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
You can choose to break the law if you want, but you can’t then cry about it if/when you get caught. This guy can make his ICE-tracking app, but he has to live with the repercussions.
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 2 weeks ago
Nobody is crying about getting arrested. The fascists are arresting anyone they please without due process. The people risking their safety know the risks. ICE and the police are breaking the law by obscuring their faces and badge numbers, but you’re complaining about working class folks breaking laws written by the ruling class. Laws that they constantly ignore.