Comment on We need to stop pretending AI is intelligent

guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  AI is not actual intelligence. However, it can produce results better than a significant number of professionally employed people…

  I am reminded of when word processors came out and “administrative assistant” dwindled as a role in mid-level professional organizations, most people - even increasingly medical doctors these days - do their own typing. The whole “typing pool” concept has pretty well dried up.

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  • tartarin@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    However, there is a huge energy cost for that speed to process statistically the information to mimic intelligence. The human brain is consuming much less energy. Also, AI will be fine with well defined task where innovation isn’t a requirement. As it is today, AI is incapable to innovate.

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    • cheesorist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      much less? I’m pretty sure our brains need food and food requires lots of other stuff that need transportation or energy themselves to produce.

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      • Potatar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Customarily, when doing these kind of calculations we ignore stuff which keep us alive because these things are needed regardless of economic contributions, since you know people are people and not tools.

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      • tartarin@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Your brain is running on sugar. Do you take into account the energy spent in coal mining, oil fields exploration, refinery, transportation, electricity transmission loss when computing the amount of energy required to build and run AI? Do you take into account all the energy consumption for the knowledge production in first place to train your model? Running the brain alone is much less energy intensive than running an AI model. And the brain can create actual new content/knowledge. There is nothing like the brain. AI excel at processing large amount of data, which the brain is not made for.

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      • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And we “need” none of that to live. We just choose to use it.

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    • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The human brain is consuming much less energy

      Yes, but when you fully load the human brain’s energy costs with 20 years of schooling, 20 years of “retirement” and old-age care, vacation, sleep, personal time, housing, transportation, etc. etc. - it adds up.

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  • burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    you can give me a sandwige and ill do a better job than AI

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    • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But, will you do it 24-7-365?

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      • burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i dont have anything else going on, man

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• amelia@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You know, and I think it’s actually the opposite. Anyone pretending their brain is doing more than pattern recognition and AI can therefore not be “intelligence” is a fucking idiot.

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  • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Clearly intelligent people mispell and have horrible grammar too.

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  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think there’s a strong strain of essentialist human chauvinism.

    But it’s more kinds of thing than LLM’s are doing. Except in the case of llmbros.

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  • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No your failing the Eliza test and it is very easy for people to fall for it.

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• PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You could say they’re AS (Actual Stupidity)

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  • Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Autonomous Systems that are Actual Stupid lol

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• JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Caveat: Anyone who has been scrutinising ‘AI’.

  Something i often forget is the vast majority of the population doesnt care about technology, privacy, the mechanics of LLMs as much as i do and I pay attention to.
  So most people read/hear/watch stories of how great it is and how clever AI can do simple things for them so its easy to see how they think its doing a lot more ‘thought’ logic work than it really is, other than realistically it being a glorified word predictor.

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