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ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• b_tr3e@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  CSS on the other hand is quite essential to separate layout from content. Which is a good thing, so I can’t really think of a reason for a “no-CSS” rule. Specifically if you can use inline styles as well but in a way more messy way.

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  • garretble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    CSS is useful but also the devil.

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    • SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      CSS is mostly evil when you have to center elements in the page.

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      • garretble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        text-align: center

        or

        margin: auto

        or

        grid

        or

        flexbox

        It’s really not that hard now.

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      • Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Learn flex forget pixels and screen measurements.

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  • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think the idea is that you keep the layout as simple as possible such that you don’t need any code for it, css or otherwise.

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  • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I know that’s what CSS is supposed to do, but I’m not sure many people use it that way.

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  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Separating layout from content is good. CSS is a really bad way to do it.

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    • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do you have an example of a good way to do it?

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Separate you layout from content so hard that you have no opinions about the layout.

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    • b_tr3e@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Oh, come on. You really want some at least readable output. Things like image borders, consistently positioned images/diagrams, line breaks and page borders. Some whitespace and indentations, too. You just can’t read a couple of pages full of unformatted raw text without massive eye fatigue. I’m all for dumping JS and excessive frameworks, I’d prefer well-formed XHTML over any of that clients-side scripted crap, but totally rejecting CSS is pointless zealotry.

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      • frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Some people haven’t lived through the time when HTML layout was done through nested tables, and it shows.

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      • zloubida@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        In a perfect world, these would be decided not server-side, but client-side by choices made by the browser users.

        But our world is not perfect.

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      • ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        HTML but no-CSS has defaults though.

        Can you read books

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Why do you think I’m advocating for getting rid of CSS and not being silly?

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