So support the country committing a genocide against the uyghurs? Because you think a salute is worse than a Holocaust, got it.
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SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 1 month agoI would say go with whatever company that doesn’t have a CEO throwing Nazi salutes.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 month ago
SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 1 month ago
If you don’t see musk as one of the singular greatest threats to this planet, I dunno what to tell you. It is certainly not just the salute, that was just the most public he’s been about his true self. If I recall those Nazis had some thoughts on the Holocaust as well.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 month ago
I really don’t. Putin, Kim Jong Un, Xi Jinping, all are actual threats. Musk doesn’t even register.
SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 1 month ago
How many of those got up on stage with the seal of the president of the United States and did one of the most identifiable actions of the last true fascist regime? musk was able to spend $250 million to pretend to be president for a few months to kneecap the US government and kill all the investigations into his illegal dealings as well as reward his companies with lucrative government contracts. I’d love to see any of those tinpot dictators and “communist” leaders do that.
Putin is the head of the paper tiger Russia. If they didn’t have nukes the US probably would have steam rolled them back in 2014 when they took Crimea. If the world actually gave Ukraine the weapons and resources to do it, I have no doubt they could be at Moscow’s door in a couple months.
Kim Jung Un is the head of a pariah state who relies on worldwide aide so that his people don’t starve more than they already are starving.
Sure Xi is the head of the state in which there is obviously genocide happening, but he’s not running a car company, which is what this whole article is about.
Deestan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
With that level of indirection gymnastics, you can accuse anyone of anything.
(This comment written in the language of a brutally colonizing and genocidal empire.)
tortina_original@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hahaha.
As opposed to supporting a country that… (fill in the blanks, there is an infinite supply)
AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Since you proudly champion the rights of Uyghur people, you are aware that the reeducation camps are closed since about 2022, right?
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
i am afraid it is just that most CEOs are sane enough to keep their embarrassing moments for their private life. do you think musk is the only narcissistic psychopath on drugs in the business word?
this is not advocating for musk, but it is important to be grounded in reality ;)
SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I have no doubt most CEOs are psychopaths, but they also don’t own a global Nazi mouthpiece like twitter, or have more money and resources than several small nations.
Feet firmly planted in reality, thanks. You definitely sound like your advocating for musk.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
You definitely sound like your advocating for musk.
You should work on your reading comprehension then
SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I did not forget my argument. I think the world would be a better place without CEOs in general. If you really think every CEO is a Nazi in sheep’s clothing, then you should probably get your head checked.
As far as I know a corporation isn’t the government of China and doesn’t have much say over the Chinese government committing their own genocide.
My reading comprehension is fine, you’re just comparing Nazis to oranges.
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 1 month ago
To be fair, I think most of USA is on recreational drugs, legal, illegal, or “prescription”. That shouldn’t matter as much compared to his other actions.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 month ago
what he does in his free time is one thing (i don’t care about that), being high when he is
working for a governmentruining people’s lives and jobs is another.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Yeah, the Chinese manufacturers are out to make money, and at least we know what to expect from them.
Besides, being profitable usually means making a better product than your competitors.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 month ago
GASP!
You mean… Proper capitalism!?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Okay there’s a ton of spyware in the car, but - just . . don’t . . . connect it. Or whatever.
oakward@feddit.org 1 month ago
Which of them are you talking about?
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
And you think ICE cars don’t have spyware these days?
Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Most cars have their own embedded SIMs nowadays. They’re already connected. You can’t disconnect them.
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 1 month ago
I don’t know that they’re out to make money though. A lot of the Chinese manufacturers are now struggling due to the price war they instigated themselves. Huge production surplus but they pushed down the price so much they hardly make any money
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I think a lot of it is also growing their market share and establishing their brand.
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 1 month ago
Brand recognition is important, but it’s a dangerous game operating mostly on government subsidies. Once you have established low prices it’s hard to reverse it
Meron35@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Competition is fierce, but they are not exactly struggling due to government subsidies/incentives. These are so extreme that Chinese manufacturers are over producing and dumping “used” EVs with zero mileage for export.
Similar to US agricultural dumping, this is a terrible policy for everyone, except for the beneficiaries of the subsidies, and maybe the overseas consumers who get cheap EVs in the short term.
China’s Zero-Mile ‘Used’ EVs Are Flooding Global Markets - insideevs.com/news/…/china-zero-mile-used-evs/