Comment on Why is the progress pride flag so poorly designed (especially the intersex progress pride flag)? Will it be redesigned?

Hugin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The Progress flag stands for the progress that has been made and the progress that STILL NEEDS TO BE MADE against racism and transphobia as well as memorializing those we lost to AIDS.

  So yes, while the original flag is meant to include all the LGBT+ communities, progress stands for more than inclusion for a lot of us ✌️

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  • Hugin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My problems with the progress flag and the trans rainbow flag are not with the groups or ideas they are ment to express.

    First like OP I think they are bad flag designs. To busy and lack the simple design a flag should have. I also just don’t like the look.

    Second there is value in a consistent recognizable design like the rainbow. I spot all sorts of variants and often don’t know what they are supposed to mean.

    I also don’t think there should be spefic meaning to the parts. Saying this color stripe is this group and that color is another group is problematic.

    The rainbow colors were meant to symbolize broad inclusion. Everybody under the rainbow. Red isn’t gay, blue isn’t lesbian, etc. (I know some have tried to add that after the fact).

    When you start adding spefic groups to the flag you start having included groups and excluded groups. So as much as I support trans rights and think they belong in the community I don’t want any spefic group in the flag.

    You then get groups that are not included and want a new flag to included them. Like we are seeing with the trans flag causing groups to want the progress flag. Pretty soon the rainbow is going to look like nascar with logos everywhere.

    A simple consistent flag with the message of broad inclusion is better.

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    • JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think you’re missing the forest for the trees and I don’t think I’ll be engaging with your slippery slope argument ✌️

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• jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Was it meant to represent black and indigenous people?

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Does it need to?

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    • jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not sure why you would ask that. I’m responding to this claim:

      It was meant to include everyone under the rainbow so trans people and others are already included.

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      • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ah I get your point. Native people are their own sexual identity. Got it.

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