Comment on It shouldn't be called ADHD; it should be called restless brain syndrome.

Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Madrigal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You clearly don’t understand ADHD.

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  • Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is how a mental order is defined. What are you suggesting?

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    • Madrigal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That you don’t understand ADHD.

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      • Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You don’t understand. It’s only a mental disorder because we have built environments for people that are not suitable for everybody. It’s possible that there may not exist an environment that makes any mental disorder not be a problem, but ADD and ADHD in my opinion is not one of them. Many countries don’t recognize these as a mental disorders because they haven’t built a society that causes problems for people with ADD or ADHD.

        As someone with ADD I find it a bit ridiculous that because I can’t pay absolute attention on something I’m uninterested in while stuck in a room unable to leave that I have a mental disorder. The problem doesn’t lie with me, but with the environment I am in.

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• zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Here’s an expert talking about outcomes youtube.com/watch?v=26V6LCbKXJU&si=Mu1mO845lv…

  Tldw: worse outcomes in education, relationships, careers, automobile safety, finance. So all you have to do is not be in school, drive, be in a relationship (romantic or not), have a career, have credit, etc. Your suggestion that it’s just the environment and all we have to do is change how finance, the job market, education, and human relationships work and get fully self driving cars right now is not only woefully uninformed but also such a massive undertaking to the point of being a joke.

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  • Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I suggested no such thing. You are coming to wild conclusions on your own. Please read it again more carefully. I have in no way suggested that it is possible to change the environment.

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you change environments to one that allows that behavior to no longer be a problem then they no longer have a disorder.

      This you?

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      • Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Where in this sentence is it implied that it is possible let alone easily doable to change the environment? Using an “if” conditional implies a hypothetical and nothing more. You people are being nonsensical and looking to be angry for reason beyond comprehension at this point.

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• Scrof@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nope, it’s definitely in my head.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My thoughts are definitely disordered.

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• brygphilomena@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It causes significant impairment on my ability to live my life, regardless of the environment I am in.

  There is no change in environment that will solve ADHD.

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• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It most certainly is a disorder. Makes everything in my life more challenging.

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  • Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You have misunderstood what has been said. It’s more challenging because society has built an environment that is not suitable for you and many others. This is just a matter of semantics and how to attribute fault with definitions. It’s not your fault who you are is not suitable for the way things are. It’s the way things are that are not suitable for you.

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    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We aren’t neurotypical, that’s really all there is to it. Doesn’t really have anything to do with how society is structured.

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      • Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That might the gist of it, but it definitely has everything to do with how the environment is structured. There might be no other feasible way to structure the environment though.

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    • maniclucky@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      While societal changes can help, there is plenty that environment can’t fix.

      A set of conditions becomes a disorder when they have a significant negative impact on a person. It’s the difference between "oh I’m so OCD giggle"and “if I don’t flip the light switch exactly four times, someone will die”. Even under perfect conditions, there are still negative impacts.

      Declassifying it only hurts patients as then insurance and society at large world be given no reason to cut a little slack (for lack of a faster description).

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• nal@lib.lgbt ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  you’re like almost getting at the social model of disability, but framing it in a way that invalidates people’s lived experiences of having a brain that works fundamentally differently from the norm.

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  • Izzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m not doing any such thing. Everyone has just had some weird misunderstanding. The topic of the thread is about putting a positive spin on the term and I am agreeing to that as it is something I personally deal with. I find that the term “disorder” has an unfair negative connotation and could possibly be called something else. Preferably with a more positive connotation that doesn’t imply there is something wrong being born this way. If that isn’t possible then people should at least understand the medical definition of what a disorder is to help remove the negative connotation.

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    • Skiv@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Try to keep in mind how many redditors are now on lemmy.

      They get emotional and want to fight over semantics and anecdotes constantly especially when they realize they’ve assumed intent incorrectly. They only know how to double down. It’s not their fault.

      They’re only hearing “your problem isn’t real” because they’re not listening.

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    • Someology@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Disorder” can be seen negatively. That is fair. However, if you use a milder term than “disorder”, then it is even harder for people to take ADHD seriously as a real thing. This is already a challenge, and using a less serious word would make it worse.

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