Comment on Mozilla review of 25 car brands finds they're "a privacy nightmare"

• frododouchebaggins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You save the environment by using a car for as long as possible. Genius.

  The total natural resources consumed to make an entire new car is much, much worse than an oil on a car that was already produced. Please, stay in school.

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  • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    …not if it’s already environmentally unsound, gene yes.

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    • Steak@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Did you even go to school in the first place?

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      • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Good point, I change my stance, let’s all burn oil and leak chemicals together to expedite this journey to its inevitable conclusion.

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  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not to mention the best way to address an oil leak is to fix the fucking leak, not get a whole new car.

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• drathvedro@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The car you’re buying has already been made, it’s carbon been produced, and now you’re generating less emissions with the newer more efficient vehicle

  Actually, no. If millions of cars are sold it doesn’t mean that all of them immediately popped in existence, materials brought, wages paid and emissions produced. They do them in batches and scale production based on demand. One person not buying a car might not make a dent, but a thousand will. So, while the carbon emissions of that car you see at a dealer’s has already produced, by buying it you’re giving manufacturer the funds to product the next one, effectively the same as if you’ve enabled the carbon emissions of that car in the first place.

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• Steak@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lol and the only reason “that car is already made” is because car companies can bank on people thinking like you are. If people like you didn’t exist they would pull back a bit on the production of new cars.

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  • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s not true at all but go off then.

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    • Steak@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why would they continue making the same amount of cars if less people are buying cars? Go on then explain, this should be good.

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• Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You gonna help the low income individuals buy a new car?

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  • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When was that ever posited?

    The statement was from a person who was going to upgrade his bad for the environment car for a newer, and thus better for the environment car, but decided against it because he’d rather burn oil and contribute to the downfall of the planet than give over his information that he’s already sharing from his phone anyways.

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    • Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Majority of emissions come from a handful of companies. Stop. Blaming. Individual. Citizens.

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• Toadiwithaneye@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A new car lasts for about 6 years, needs upkeep like an old car, and has little if any resale value. You then buy a new car, using more materials many that are plastic and cannot be recycled. Even a electric car is not green, the batteries alone are a mess, not really recyclable and made of non-renewable resources. New cars are not meant to be re-used and repaired they are disposable like everything else in our society. What we should have as an environmental goal should be a dynamic public transportation, right to repair, and end our disposable ways.

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  • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I guess I’ll just start leaving this here.

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• sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Your inflammatory tone aside, I do understand the impact of my car environmentally, and I have the privilege of being able to take public transportation for a lot of my work and university trips. But unfortunately I do need to use my car sometimes.

  I bet I’m still making less of a carbon footprint from my car than someone who drives a newer car everyday though.

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  • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I imagine my “tone” would be better if we weren’t already facing catastrophic global sea level rises, bigger and stronger and longer hurricanes, intense droughts and heatwaves that persist for weeks, wildfires six times the size of normal, global temperature increases, more tropical diseases moving north….but hey, I guess I should just be nicer to people that think it’s okay!

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    • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And most of that comes from private jet usage or large corporate manufacturing. But yes, go off on some random university student on Lemmy because -checks notes- I drive an old car.

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      • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        And most of that comes from private jet usage

        So that was a lie.

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      • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Collectively, cars and trucks account for nearly one-fifth of all US emissions, emitting around 24 pounds of carbon dioxide and other global-warming gases for every gallon of gas.

        Oh shit, well if it’s only 20% we shouldn’t even think about it then! Blame-less Blame-less Blame-less! Woo!

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    • GortexGary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Anger isn’t going to fix anything. We need to come together and not be divided further.

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      • money_loo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s going to take both of those things combined to overcome the natural instinct for human apathy. People overwhelmingly don’t give a fuck until something affects them.

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    • brygphilomena@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Privacy is very important to a lot of people. It doesn’t seem like it is to you, but to some of us it really is a reason why a new car is simply unacceptable to us.

      There is no reason they couldn’t make newer vehicles that are eco friendly without the data collection. Just because you are willing to trade your privacy for marginal emissions gains doesn’t mean everyone is.

      And I say marginal, because many older vehicles could easily be maintained at a much lower cost than a new vehicle is. And an older vehicle, well maintained, can easily get very close or better than modern vehicles emissions, excluding EVs.

      It isn’t the age of the car that’s the issue so much as maintenance and size. Sedans and coupes are far more ecological than trucks and SUVs.

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• GortexGary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  By buying a new car, the car companies continue to invest to build more new cars… Just because it is made now doesn’t mean a new one has to be made to take its place… SMH

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