There’s a rules-based international order. We make the rules, and guess who gives the orders.
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BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
vga@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
So why is Vladimir Putin not in Hague?
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Russia is on the security council. As far as we understand, they are part of the international organization that makes the rules
Triasha@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You have been playing too much rainbow six. There are no good guys in the halls of power looking after us.
There are only the rich fucks over here and the rich fucks over there pulling the levers of power.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
You mean like when Gerald Bull was killed? Surely an accident.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Bull
Which is why I am sitting in disbelief that Iran could be so monumentally stupid.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 days ago
This isn’t how anything works. No government cedes this kind of authority to anyone and trying to enforce it would lead to war even among allies.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The alternative is “drop bombs”.
Rounding up leaders and putting them on trial seems like a more civilized international approach than engaging in the same bloodthirsty, explosive, surprise-murder that is literally the whole problem here.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You don’t have the alternative to go into other people’s country and round up people because people will absolutely shoot any such folks then drop bomb’s on your cities and forces. It’s not my fault you are confused about what the options are.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.
Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Isreal is a terrorist state, the US is a terrorist state. Assasinating people or blowing them up on their way to work is terror. Blowing up pagers in homes while a child is bring it to daddy is terrorism.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Terrorism is internationally recognized as when a group or organization unaffiliated with a recognized government uses violence to achieve a political goal. “Terrorist state” is a contradiction in terms.
Netanyahu is leading a genocide and starting wars, all to avoid the regular democratic and legal process of Israel. Why are you carrying water for him?
MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 days ago
Nation level retaliation would ensue. Maybe possible to do in some country matchups, but not possible in all.
LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 days ago
There is no “international authority”. It’s all big stick politics out there. It’s like trying to go after a corporation in the US. The “punishments” when they break the law are fines, if that, and any admonishment not to fuck over the same person in the same way again.
Think about your boss shorting you $100. The “legal” process involves YEARS of waiting for a court date, a labor code interpreted heavily in favor of the employer, and at the end of the day, they get fines and maybe have to pay back what you rightfully earned in the first place.
Now think about what happens when you steal $100 from work. Immediate police involvement, possible arrest, absolute legal consequences even if you’re cleared years later, the presumption of guilt from everyone in society.
It’s even worse on a political stage. Nobody has the moral fortitude to step forward and fix shit because it’s broken. Everyone just waits around until the collective consciousness supports some sort of social consequence on the offender in question. That’s not even tying race or religion into the mix, which Israel loves to twist up into their particular brand of nationalism.
The civil world is simply too polite to call them out for all their shit. It’s a whole world full of chickenshit and I am tired of the stink.
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 days ago
It’s like that saying goes: “The law is the same for everyone, neither the king nor the beggar may sleep under a bridge.”
Ironfist79@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s BS. The king would never need to sleep under a bridge and if he chose to the police would do nothing about it.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
That’s the point of the saying. The law can be crafted to treat everyone equally, while only benefitting the king.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 days ago
I bet this guy knows how to play Mario Kart.