Credit cards have actually been doing that for years. It’s a feature for recurring payments to reduce the amount of trouble users had when their CC number was compromised or it expired.
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Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I got an email from OnStar the other day saying it contacted my bank and updated my card info because I had gotten an old card and hadn’t updated the info, I don’t pay for OnStar but the dealership MAKES you set it up even if you don’t use it.
How the fuck are they allowed to contact my bank and get information like that? Weirded my TF out to say the least.
ramble81@lemm.ee 9 months ago
AquaTofana@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah, it sucks too. A couple years ago I was trying to get out of a Sirius Satellite subscription I had opted into during the height of the rony 'rona.
Instead of sitting on the phone with CSRs for hours on end while they pass me around and offer me incentives to stay, I thought I’d be smart and report that my credit card was lost. (At the time you couldn’t disenroll online, that changed I happily found out a few months ago)
Joke was on me though. Sirius updated my new card info, and I was without a credit card for ~8 days.
AngryAnusHornets@lemmy.world 9 months ago
[deleted]brygphilomena@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Authorizations are different from CC details.
You can call a bank and cancel an authorization without canceling a card.
MrZed411@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’m not sure when you purchased your vehicle, but when I purchased my vehicle Dec 2022 I had to do that OnStar setup crap as well and just denied giving them any information. They said I wouldn’t be able to get this or that but I didn’t care so they didn’t get that information. It took about 15 minutes with the person on the other side being a bit confused but just gave up when I said it the like 5th time.
Either way they don’t need that information at any time unless you want their free trials that are almost never worth it.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah, I’d walk away from a sale before agreeing to that crap, even if they did make it mandatory.
30mag@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I don’t pay for OnStar but the dealership MAKES you set it up even if you don’t use it.
I have never heard that. When did they start doing that?
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Weirded my TF out to say the least.
Honestly that shouldn’t weird you out too much, that’s just a convenience feature. And yeah, I know, some people put quotes around the word convenience. But others actually just use the word as is, a convenience.
What should freak the hell out of you is when you and your significant other are in the car talking about buying a new pair of tennis shoes, and then that evening when you’re sitting at home YouTube shows you a commercial for tennis shoes, when you’ve never seen any ads for tennis shoes on YouTube before.
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 9 months ago
By design and commonly accepted on recurring payments. Not even remotely new or connected with OnStar.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 9 months ago
I wonder what happens if you only have a single card with no money on it.
money_loo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That sounds awfully convenient and OnStar saves lives, so…
Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The emergency features are free, they want you to pay for in-car wifi. You also cannot cancel online and have to cancel with a rep over the phone. The service itself is fine, but dealerships requiring you to sign up “even if you aren’t going to use it” isn’t .
money_loo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Oh really?
One of the most expensive plans comes from OnStar, which charges $29.99 a month or $299.90 a year for its Safety & Security Plan after a free trial period. It’s the least expensive OnStar plan that includes automatic crash notification, which it calls Automatic Crash Response. OnStar says these subscription fees are necessary to pay for the resources used to operate the feature.
“Certain features and services, including Automatic Crash Response, require ongoing updates, network connectivity, staffed call centers, among other recurring costs to operate,” an OnStar spokesperson, Rita Kass-Shamoun, told CR.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They did that to me. I specifically have them a card I knew was going to expire before the trial period was over and they got the new information anyway.
If I remember correctly, it’s a “feature” the credit card companies have so your subscriptions don’t lapse.
orphiebaby@lemmy.world 9 months ago
How is that fucking legal?
money_loo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah and it’s very useful, looks like this place is just as bad with the kids as that other place.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
The fuck are you talking about?
money_loo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The fact people here don’t even understand how credit cards work is a pretty big sign my guy….
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If I want to keep a subscription going I’ll give them the new CC information myself. Like a responsible adult. Hard disagree on the usefullness.
Not sure what point you’re even trying to make about children and Reddit.
money_loo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s pretty well known Reddits users are mostly kids.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 months ago
money_loo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There are lots of situations you wouldn’t want your service to be cancelled, so it’s a useful feature is all we’re saying. People acting like it’s malice are hilarious and/or children.
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is more based on authorization vs CC details. It’s much safer for a company than holding onto credit card numbers. Creating a subscriptions generates an authorization code which is good for the account, not just a specific card number. Revoking that authorization is a separate call to the bank rather than just having a credit card replaced.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That authorization shouldn’t be indefinite either though. After three years of no activity and a card expiring OnStar was still able to make a charge to renew that trial subscription.
And looking around the web, there are a few stories from that 2016 time frame to indicate that it was a new-ish, or at least not well known, practice at the time.