You serious?
Comment on American attitudes about AI today mirror poll answers about the rise of the internet in the '90s
anachrohack@lemmy.world 22 hours agoI think there is no possible world where people are without meaningful work and are happy about it. Even if they collected $10,000 a month and got to spend all of their time doing hobbies and spending time with family, it would feel pointless and hollow. Why have a family? Why raise children? Why do anything if there’s no struggle, if you’re not the one providing for your kids? I think if AI replaces humans in the workplace, even with UBI, humans would cease to exist shortly thereafter as our lives will have become meaningless
LWD@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
anachrohack@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Yes, I think people define themselves by their roles, especially men
ICastFist@programming.dev 19 hours ago
You have a very limited view of what life should, or even can be.
anachrohack@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
It’s not a normative statement. I don’t necessarily think it’s good. I just don’t think people can be happy being useless
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
That’s a sign of toxic culture, not of men wanting to be defined by what value they can bring.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 19 hours ago
*monetary value
(bcs value that people actuality bring to society often isn’t fairly valued in terms of money or even not at all)
anachrohack@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
No it’s biology
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 19 hours ago
Even if so - the definition of oneself is what that person gets paid for, not what that person enjoys doing?
… like, lmao, except if it’s like a weird grinding kink or something.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 19 hours ago
I think there is no possible world where people are without meaningful work and are happy about it.
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Even if they collected $10,000 a month and got to spend all of their time doing hobbies and spending time with family, it would feel pointless and hollow.
What is the difference between “hobby” and “work” if not what random people decide what is better monetised?
Both is labour & value added.
In a world where everyone gets enough money people could do what they actually want. So a CEO wouldn’t be “stuck” being a CEO if they don’t like that job & would rather be eg a baker. In the current system bcs of a huge pay divergence you get an unhappy CEO (who ofc won’t quit) and an unhappy baker that just couldn’t get a more suited paying job.
But we as a society would get a lot more out of life & cultural progression if people would be happy & satisfied at what they do (job=hobby).
Empirical evidence (even USA did extensive tests in the 60s) show that given a universal income (so basically no scarcity) basically nobody just sits around watching TV all day, everyone is productive (research, art, services, etc).
Imagine only having customer support or food industry workers that truly enjoy their job & want to do it.
Labour is what we all benefit from.
Work is what the employer/owner benefits from.
echodot@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
Okay let’s do an experiment.
Get some annoying trust fund kid, take all their money away from them, and tell them that they now have to get a job but it’s a good thing because now their life has meaning. Let’s see how happy they are about it.
anachrohack@lemmy.world 41 minutes ago
How about you give them a wife and kids to take care of at the same time. Life would feel pretty pointless if I was only working to support myself