If they’re calling it remote streaming when you’re on the same (local) network, that’s not exactly intuitive. I’d say OP’s phrasing was fair.
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Kirk@startrek.website 3 days ago
Jellyfin is great, but in defense of Plex, they announced that remote streaming would require one of the two parties to have a Plex pass was coming back in March so I don’t know if it’s fair to say they are holding anything hostage.
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 3 days ago
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
OP has a misconfigured server and isn’t connecting to their server over LAN.
gdog05@lemmy.world 3 days ago
But I keep hearing the value of Plex is that anyone can use it.
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yes anyone can use it even people who don’t know how to configure their server
Opisek@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Just because the destination IP address is not a LAN address? That’s not misconfiguration, that’s a legitimate use of NAT reflection/loopback. If that’s how it determines who is streaming remotely then just run it behind nginx that forgets to set the correct headers.
amorpheus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It doesn’t relay all traffic, that’s a fallback if a connection can’t be established.
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 days ago
Yeah, there is no defence on enshittification, sorry. I have jellyfin now. Its also not remote which makes this a huge dick move too.
Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Wait its not remote? You’re on your local network?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 days ago
OP has set it up wrong so it’s ALL going remote, even when he’s in the same house.
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 days ago
I have it set up in a way. That does not make it wrong. This is an option that plex gives you without warning so its their problem in the first place. They also just paywalled that feature that worked for years and they’re not considering the consequences or they dont care. The least they could have done is put a link “if youre seeing this on your home network, you need to do THIS.”
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I started down the Jellyfin path after they made that announcement. It’s super easy to install, and in many ways the UI is nicer than Plex. But I ran into challenges getting my server safely accessible for users outside my LAN. And I haven’t had the time to look into that further.
Would be great if there was a clean, easy way to set up the webserver portion so it’s as easy to share content entirely as Plex. But I get they are a volunteer project with a lot on their plate.
easydnesto@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I have had great success with tailscale in this regard.
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 days ago
The same tailscale that announced last week that they are going to start charging?
tailscale.com/kb/1251/pricing-faq
Bubs@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Took a quick look at the free tier,
3 users 100 devices Basically all tailscale features
That seems pretty reasonable to me. Main account and two accounts to share. With just friends and family, I doubt most people will reach the 100 device limit.
Archer@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Says personal is still free? Not seeing what you’re saying
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
I’m willing to recommend Tailscale because I run headscale and it does basically everything a selfhoster needs. When the free version is passable, it’s harder to enshitify the commercial version.
droolio@feddit.uk 2 days ago
What announcement? There’s been a new Personal Plus plan around for several months already - introduced without much fanfare, and simply brings the user count from 3 to 6 for a fixed small fee. Presumably this is due to feedback from personal users wanting to contribute something other than nothing.
Where do you see the free Personal plan has changed at all?
HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
It’s kinda the same as it was before, as far as I can see, for the personal plan. Looks like they’ve just added more the ability to add more than 3 users for a fee.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s great until you try and get it working on your <insert person here that doesn’t live with you>’s TV via their streaming device.
Dultas@lemmy.world 3 days ago
My mom’s tv surprisingly has WireGuard so I set that up for her.
sudo@programming.dev 3 days ago
FWIW:
Obviously not as trivial or seamless as Plex. Also I wouldn’t try to complicate this setup by using docker for everything. But once its up you can basically host whatever you want on the WAN from your LAN.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Awesome, thanks for the tips!
foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What added security do you get by using a VPS besides obscuring your home IP? I can definitely see benifits to not leaking your home address, but otherwise the reverse proxy and wireguard tunnels don’t actually add any increased security for the extra steps. You could just host a reverse proxy at home, and any flaws Jellyfin could have in their app would still be exposed.
I’m not knocking your solution, I’m just in a similar place and considering if I want to go through the extra hurdle for a VPS if I don’t need one.
sudo@programming.dev 2 days ago
Obscuring home IP is the big one. You also don’t have to fiddle with opening ports on your router and maybe getting ISP attention for hosting on a residential network. But really obscuring home IP address would work.
Dirt simplest solution is caddy on the same jellyfin server and port forward 443 and 80 on your router to that host. Hopefully letsencrypt will work without a domain but I’m not sure.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 days ago
So an additional 10 bucks a month….
sudo@programming.dev 2 days ago
5 actually because you can use minimal hardware. You can probably just port forward your router and run caddy on the same jellyfin server but then expose your home IP address.
Alfenstein@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
I use wg-easy, which is a web ui bundled with wireguard and it works great. I only have to port forward a single wireguard port on my router.