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surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 days ago170k for running a company? Shit. I wouldn’t do that. You can make just as much being a halfway competent developer, and it’s way less stress.
It must not be that stressful if you have $170k leftover to pay yourself.
Most people work more stressful jobs for considerably less. We should stop giving CEOs a pass.
This shouldn’t need to be said, but most people are useful idiots so here we are.
You’re missing the point. There are easier jobs in the same industry for the same pay.
We’re not comparing tech CEO to roofers. We’re comparing them to other people in tech.
Uhh, no.
This is directly the point: Most people work more stressful jobs for considerably less. We should stop giving CEOs a pass.
Oh, and don’t forget about this one!
but most people are useful idiots so here we are.
Still not getting it I think.
Why would someone choose a more stressful job for the same pay?
This does not imply a lack of more stressful jobs that pay less. Obviously every idiot would take an easier job that pays more if they could.
Oh, and don’t forget about this one!
I didn’t forget. I chose to ignore it because it makes you look tacky and I’m being polite. But if you insist on pressing the point, there you go.
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 4 days ago
I guess you live in the USA? No one makes this amount of money
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 days ago
A Senior Developer in any major city makes that amount of money.
glassdoor.com/…/senior-developer-salary-SRCH_KO0,…
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 4 days ago
Funnily enough, it shows the localised amount.
For me in France it shows 50k€ to 69k€, so $58k to $80k at current exchange rates
It just confirms that this is USA only haha
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 days ago
You can’t just look at the exchange rate. You have to look at cost and standard of living.
Someone in the US making 100k is not doing as well as someone in France making 70k€
philpo@feddit.org 4 days ago
And a 80k$ salary in France amounts to around 125k$ cost for the employer. So 170k$ isn’t that much - I actually know French developers and network engineers that make similar money. The French ITsec architect I interviewed last year would have cost me (converted) around 150k$.
So 170k$ is absolutely not out of the normal range here.
Talking about France: The French government could start to properly support matrix.org as they use it for tChap. The same goes for Germany with the “Behördenmessenger”
thundermoose@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Listed salaries are almost always what the employee pays, not what it costs the company. In the US, this includes the payroll tax, and cost of “benefits,” like healthcare and unemployment insurance, and is referred to as the burdened rate. This is separate from the income tax the employee has to pay to the government, mind you.
The burdened rate for most employees at the companies I’ve worked for in the US is like 20-50% higher than the salary paid. Not sure exactly how it works in France, but I do know there’s a pretty complex payroll tax companies have to pay. I think it’s something like 40% at the salary you quoted.
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 days ago
80k plus all of society’s trappings of France. Dude, it’s not even a comparison. Worker’s rights, healthcare, public transit, safety, security…
Patch@feddit.uk 4 days ago
Just looked on that link for the UK. The average is listed as £63k, which is $85k.
So you’re not exactly disproving the point that that type of high salary is a US thing.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 days ago
You can’t at all compare unless you reference cost and standard of living. I’ve managed and hired people in multiple countries. It’s not as simple as salary X exchange rate.