As always, trust but verify. I was telling people here for months that Kamala hadn’t won yet and everybody needed to get out and spread the word on Project 2025.
We saw what happened, and we see a lot of opinions here on Lemmy. Trust but verify.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I mean if you read any Reddit that during the road to the recent USA elections, Biden should have won by an extremely large margin, and later , Kamala.
If we used Reddit threads of those months as reference, we’d currently been talking about how hard Kamala won
But she didn’t
So yeah, take whatever is on Reddit, and now Lemmy, with an asteroid sized pinch of salt
Not saying those comments were fake, they certainly represent someone, now, wheater that someone is a sizeable amount of voters…
Jax@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
socsa@piefed.social 6 months ago
We saw a massive, concerted "don't vote, bot sides are the same" effort in Lemmy. It was incredibly obvious and shocking that some people still deny it.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I’m surprised to see a comment on a post from so long ago but yes, it was an incredibly blatant display.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 9 months ago
LOL genocide Blue MAGA still crying over their well deserved loss months later.
Krudler@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Snakes on a Plane and Bernie have proven that what you see online is complete bullshit.
Biden got the boot because he was a no-hoper and his party must have been aware of his cancer. Kamala stood ZERO chance.
It sucks to have to admit that Trump and his fascists are popular. Very popular.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 months ago
But that’s not what the public nor the voters were told
Jax@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
What happened with Snakes on a Plane? I’m only aware of the movie.
Krudler@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Based on online hype, it could be believed that it was going to be the highest grossing movie of all time.
It was an unmitigated disaster and complete flop.
Nobody went to see the piece of shit. Everybody talked about it online.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Huh, I’m amazed - I wasn’t exposed to any of that. I’d only seen the memes about it afterwards.
halowpeano@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They are not popular. Like 30% of the voting eligible public voted for him.
Krudler@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You’re just rationalizing.
seejur@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’s assuming that whoever didn’t vote disapprove of him, and that’s false.
Whoever didn’t vote, was comfortable enough to not oppose him (or Kamala for that matter) and let him get to the white house.
TheFriar@lemm.ee 9 months ago
You guys can’t think there are seriously paid bots on lemmy. There are like 10,000 users. It’s basically a niche message board. Reddit is a valuable target because it has millions of users. Facebook, instagram, Twitter. These places are being astroturfed. But lemmy? I honestly don’t believe it. It doesn’t even have a core of users in any particular country. The small user base is spread all over the world. It just isn’t a target of these campaigns.
socsa@piefed.social 6 months ago
It's even worse on Lemmy because there are fewer users and the amount of data which can be gotten from things like vote data is super valuable.
I am pretty convinced that a non-trivial portion of .ml users are information warfare trainees who get trained on Lemmy before being moved over the Facebook and reddit.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
You in turn are overestimating how much effort is required for an established bot farm to add a platform to their system.
I used to see that shit decades ago in the phpBB days, you’d get accounts signing up to a board with 20 active users to post climate change denialist articles, even though the website itself had nothing to do with climate change. (Looking back on it now, the oil lobby was probably the first big user of internet forum astroturfing, but somehow nothing ever came of it…)
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Lemmy is in a growth stage. That’s exactly the time groups would want to start embedding bots to give them the most possible credulity for when they’re needed.
conicalscientist@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is exactly how voat died. There may have been an ounce of legitimacy early on. It veer into blatant far right accounts posting every top post. It’s obvious this kind of thing happens on lemmy too. Especially on certain instances. For now at least the federation model appears to be doing its thing.
phx@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
It’ll be interesting too as federations are a bit of a wild-west right now with some domains dropping off or being federated, while others may still be created in the future
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Exactly, it blew up exponentionally around 2016.
That’s when the US regime put Jessica Ashoosh in place.
All the clowns leaving Reddit bcs now with Trump ‘Reddit isn’t free’ are a joke.
They have been living a lie