Comment on Menstrual tracking app data is a ‘gold mine’ for advertisers that risks women’s safety – report

Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There is! It’s called drip and is a project started by a berlin-based feminist collective iirc.

  dripapp.org

  Free, open-source, local data only

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  • amphy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Thank you! Had no idea this existed

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  • wise@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Also trans inclusive which has the double benefit of not being the cliché pink. :)

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• Zak@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So why the fuck don’t women just use that?

  They probably don’t know about it. If I search “period tracker” on Google Play, Drip is in about 40th place in the results. That’s several screens down, past a bunch of search suggestions, and the parts where it’s open source, on-device, and optionally encrypted aren’t clear until I tap on it and read the description.

  And you probably can’t even get drip on iPhones.

  There’s some irony in a comment dealing with people making decisions that are against their interests because they’re insufficiently informed speculating incorrectly about something like this when it’s easy to check. Drip is, in fact available for iPhone.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah, discoverability is a massive issue on the Play store. If it doesn’t bring Daddy Google 30% of whatever they shovel through in ad money or mtx, then you won’t see it.

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    • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m not sure what the best answer to that is. I don’t think it’s forcing Google to improve its search results.

      I want it to be the average person gaining a baseline level of computer and media literacy such that they seek out and find apps that cannot send sensitive data to third parties without the user’s clear intent, but I don’t think we’ll ever get there.

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Unfortunately I think the age of computer literacy came and went. Phones don’t even seem to want you to know that a file is a thing.

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      • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Personal responsibility only gets you so far when the big money actively fights against it. I think the answer lies in both holding companies like Google to higher standards as well as improving access to the knowledge we need to navigate what the world has become. It doesn’t help anybody when the FBI has recommended people use an ad blocker for over a decade but nobody has ever heard them say it.

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      • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It is improving search result, with filters. Ads, tracking, data deletion possibility, in-app purchases, license, etc…

        At least some of these are already tracked.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The fact that I got 3 responses that stated it is available on F-droid made me think that. F-droid does not have anything iPhone, because you can’t side-load on iPhone.

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• ace_of_based@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  i’d like to point out that it shouldn’t be on women (or anyone) to be on constant guard against attacks on their privacy.

  yes, it is the state of the world, but the attitude of your comment is victim blaming.

  let’s not forget that while we on Lemmy may be aware of the danger of mass surveillance tech, we’re not the majority.

  snowden told us years ago how fucked everything is, and surveillance has only grown since then. let’s not forget that it is not normal that corpo data-mining is the norm (along with included de-facto warrantless surveillance). Even though we all should be better, nobody should have to be as careful as we are.

  hell, let’s be real. As long as we use a smartphone, we’re not being careful enough either.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Oh for fucks sake, I already apologized twice.

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    • ace_of_based@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      if you don’t want to be assaulted.

      you don’t have to apologize, in fact i want you to quietly think about my point until it hits home for you.

      i know it seems like im baiting an answer, and nothing’s stopping you from replying, but I’m being straight with you here.

      Also, i want you to know im not tryina busy your chops specifically. sure i picked your comment to reply to, but I’m also speaking broadly to the room, reminding everybody what we already know; that how we look at pervasive surveillance n how we got to live under it is absolutely broken

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• LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I get what you’re trying to say, but this is basically just roundabout victim blaming. Women shouldn’t have to worry about whether or not someone is going to mine data on their menstrual cycle. Yes it is good to lock your door at night, but ultimately you don’t blame somebody for getting robbed just because they didn’t lock it. You blame the thief.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I admit that was out of line, but for fucks sake, there are so many stupid people doing stupid things it’s unbearable. Voting for Trump for example. And the Russian people supporting the war on Ukraine.
    I’m just so fucking tired of how ignorant people choose to be.

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    @chunes@lemmy.world i can see your deleted comment just fyi. Next time don’t write that shit if you don’t want it read.

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    • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I know people can read it if they want. I don’t see what it is to you.

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• Botzo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Besides drip, Euki (github) is another option on both the play store and iOS.

  Note that both of these options are maintained by tiny teams with limited resources.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    tiny teams with limited resources.

    If the apps work as intended, it doesn’t really matter.

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  • Hadriscus@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Thank you !

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• TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yes there is.

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• riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Periodical. Local storage only, f-droid.

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• four@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I couldn’t find a good one, so I’m open to recommendations

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Look at the other comments, apparently drip should be the goto open source app.

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    • four@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Thanks!

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  • enshu@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Periodical f-droid.org/…/de.arnowelzel.android.periodical/ is good.

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• skvlp@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Drip looks to be available on Google Play, App Store and F-Droid.

  It probably has a lot to do with informing people.

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• GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Feedback I’ve heard about Drip was that the interface was slightly wanting. Which is a shame. Sample of one, bear in mind!

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• Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Because they don’t care. Even if it leads to potential abortion legal charges.

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• meneervana@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think many women just do not know it exists or do not know about the risks of using other apps

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Like…a spreadsheet?

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