So much for the boycott
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Kennystillalive@feddit.org 2 days ago
So much for the boycott and all the negative press it got.
katze@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Boycott 101, it’s not a boycott if you doesn’t want to buy that shit before calling boycott.
suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Gamers are the least savvy consumers on earth.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Matt Piscatella pointed out on Bluesky that a launch like this is only a function of how much inventory they made available. The Xbox One had the third most successful US launch of a console.
n0face@lemmy.wtf 2 days ago
Every Nintendo console released gets negative press. I remember the articles bashing the original Switch because it was underpowered and that it was another gimmicky console - only for it becoming so successful that the form factor is being copied left and right.
As for boycotts, I only saw people bitching about games being more expensive. I get it, I too would love to get shit for free. But inflation is a thing, games are more expensive to make nowadays, and that cost will be offloaded to consumers. At least Nintendo games are not plagued with monetization and typically are released in a complete state.
paultimate14@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The WiiU also got negative press. That doesn’t somehow redeem it.
n0face@lemmy.wtf 2 days ago
So did the Wii, I remember the game press making fun of the gimmicky motion controls.
My point is that negative press for Nintendo on every console iteration is a given, and very little can be extracted from it.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I’m old enough to remember people saying the n64 sucked compared to the PlayStation. Then I remember Mario 64 and GoldenEye being released.
Nintendo consoles are usually underpowered and the games are often overpriced…but there are reasons why people keep going with the company. They make fun shit.
paultimate14@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You and I remember the press for the Wii very, very differently. Just look at the Wikipedia article listing all the awards it won before or around it’s launch. Game Critics, Spike TV, Golden Joystick, Popular Science, IGN, GameSpot, the Guardian, and much more. including awards and praise for the innovative controls.
Was there negativity? Sure, but it was a miniscule minority. The kind of thing only an extremely defensive Nintendo fan would notice. The Wii sold out instantly and was impossible to find for the first year or two, similar the PS5 except without the excuse of a global pandemic disrupting supply chains.
It’s not some anti-Nintendo bias. The press was pretty mixed on the Xbox One for example, with some outlets pointing out it was a bit overpriced, and of course the whole debacle about being always-online and the Kinect being mandatory caused a lot of backlash. The PS3 was seen as overpriced at launch and got a 6/10 from IGN.
And another important factor is that conditions change after launch. (The 360 probably would have had worse reviews if the press knew about the red ring of death before launch. The PS3 saw price reductions and eventually outsold the 360 despite having a worse launch. The 3DS floundered for its first few months until Nintendo dropped the price.
The press is neither monolithic nor perfect. I guarantee you can find some outlet somewhere with the exact take you are looking for, but to just dismiss the entire industry because you don’t agree with most of them on the Switch 2 seems like coping.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 days ago
In the end of the day Nintendo products are for casual gamers who only care about commercial material. It wouldn‘t even cross their minds to read reviews or discuss it outside their neoliberal Discord bubble. Emulating? How scary!
Besides, the Switch is a beloved system and many users waited for an upgrade for years. The Switch 2 is downwards compatible and able to give your older games a considerable performance boost. 90€ for new games just isn‘t enough of an argument to sit out this generation when you‘ve already spent thousands on games in the Nintendo ecosystem. The locked in effect is strong.
I am not very surprised by this but I sure as hell am glad I bought my Switch and and several games second hand for I‘m mostly a PC gamer.
n0face@lemmy.wtf 2 days ago
In the end of the day Nintendo products are for casual gamers who only care about commercial material. It wouldn‘t even cross their minds to read reviews or discuss it outside their neoliberal Discord bubble. Emulating? How scary!
This sounds very inaccurate to me. Either that, or I just learned that I am a casual gamer that only cares about commercial material. And it seems that I don’t read reviews or only discuss things on some hypothetical neoliberal Discord bubble.
You derive far too much meaning from people’s preferences for console platform.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Care to paint a different perspective for me then? Just disagreeing isn‘t a good strategy for a discussion.
n0face@lemmy.wtf 2 days ago
The Switch 2 is a fine upgrade to a successful but aging system?
I mean, the price is similar to the cheapest Steam Deck I can find, which has a similar form factor. Beyond that, it is compatible with my switch 1 library, and those games will benefit from the more powerful Switch 2 hardware - some of those had occasional slowdowns on the old hardware. What’s not to like?
First party games are slightly more expensive, but that is to be expected as the industry is inching towards more expensive games. That is understandable considering inflation. As a point of reference, in the early 90s I bought TLoZ: ALttP for around 50 USD. In today’s money it would be considerably more expensive than the price increase.
On the bright side, Nintendo games at least don’t have awful monetization and tend to be released in a complete state. I prefer to pay 80 for this than 60 for a game that will be full of microtransactions anyway (as most AAA tend to be).
Beyond that, it seems the joycons are crap, as the old ones were. Does not matter much to me, I only use the Switch docked and I have much superior 8BitDo controllers to play anyway. I never really touch the joycons.
And to be honest, all first party controllers seem to be crap nowadays. My PS5 controller had horrible drift after a few months of light use. Might be even more fragile than the joycons.
So yeah, I think the idea of a boycott was pointless.
Is this enough og a different perspective? Or am I just some Discord neoliberal?
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 days ago
I sure as hell am glad I bought my Switch and and several games second hand
I had a Switch but I sold it after realizing that even second hand games sell for 90% of new. I’ve no idea how the economics of that situation works out…
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Non-tech people usually don’t care about the ToS and the dirty practices a company does. They’ll gladly pay for the ‘convenience’.
Most Nintendo fans even argued that prices, new ToS (bricking the device) and such were “justifiable”. Same thing about owning games, most argued that “in today’s era you barely own anything anyway”.
It’s very unfortunate and sad to see but it is reality.
Personally though, I’ll wait for either a working emulation or when there’s an actual exploit found to hack the Switch 2.
lowleveldata@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Tech people here not sure why you think we care more than others. I want to play new Nintendo games and I can afford it. That’s really all it’s about.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
You might not care but tech people do care. Much more than non-tech people.
A statement can be true even when it does not apply to you.